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From: Dave Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com>
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.object
Subject: RESULT: comp.lang.smalltalk.advocacy passes 194:22
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:49:49 GMT
RESULT
unmoderated group comp.lang.smalltalk.advocacy passes 194:22
There were 194 YES votes and 22 NO votes, for a total of 216 valid
votes. There were 2 abstentions and 2 invalid ballots.
For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid
(YES and NO) votes. There must also be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.
A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
comp.lang.smalltalk.advocacy Discussion of Smalltalk Language pros/cons.
Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 6 Aug 2000.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Ian Upright <ian-news@upright.net>
Votetaker: Dave Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com>
RATIONALE: comp.lang.smalltalk.advocacy
The Smalltalk language is getting popular, and much of the traffic on
comp.lang.smalltalk is related to advocacy, not technical details or
questions regarding the Smalltalk language specifically. This large amount
of traffic on comp.lang.smalltalk is reducing the quality of
comp.lang.smalltalk and decreasing messages and interest in the newsgroup of
a more technical nature. The rationale for this group is that other
languages have .advocacy groups, and it seems to work well for them, and I
believe the Smalltalk language now has the traffic to warrant it.
CHARTER: comp.lang.smalltalk.advocacy
Comp.lang.smalltalk.advocacy is a newgroup for debating Smalltalks' merits.
Acceptable topics include (but aren't limited to):
- Smalltalk's benefits and/or it's shortcomings.
- How Smalltalk relates to or differs from other programming
languages.
- The relative merits of dynamic and static typing.
It is also acceptable to crosspost to comp.lang.smalltalk.advocacy when
debating languages. Binary postings and advertisements are prohibited.
END CHARTER.
comp.lang.smalltalk.advocacy Final Voter list
Voted YES
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fzk#gams.at Franz Zahaurek
LaszloZechmeister#mynd.at
edw#xpoint.at Wolfgang Eder
DJOHNSON#bcc.com.au Denis Johnson
toivo#ucs.uwa.edu.au Toivo Pedaste
gcross#netspace.net.au Graeme Cross
angelov#obs.bg Angelov
osvaldo#visionnaire.com.br Osvaldo Pinali Doederlein
ivan.tomek#acadiau.ca Ivan Tomek
basu#freenet.carleton.ca Chirantan Basu
marengj#magma.ca Guy Marentette
awieland#storm.ca Aaron Wieland
john#tec4.ca John Eastly
bsd#cs.ubc.ca Brian de Alwis
dgorisek#iface.ch David Gorisek
mpusnik#iface.ch Matjaz Pusnik
ducasse#iam.unibe.ch ducasse stephane
rieger#iam.unibe.ch Matthias Rieger
tichel#iam.unibe.ch Sander Tichelaar
Sjagan62#aol.com
alex_arnon#atrica.com Alex Arnon
morme#aveox.com Matthew Orme
bruce_badger#badgerse.com Bruce Badger
koschate#bigfoot.com Thomas Koschate
mark.pi#bigfoot.com Mark Pirogovsky
ned#bike-nomad.com Ned Konz
fortin#biotools.com Scott Fortin
Joern.Eyrich#brokat.com Joern Eyrich
johngale#canada.com John Gale
apikovsky#cincom.com Alex Pikovsky</FONT>
hnowak#cincom.com Helge K. Nowak<BR>
ted.bracht#coda.com Ted Bracht
traymond#craftedsmalltalk.com Terry Raymond
jas#cruzio.com jas
imeikle#csc.com Ian Meikle
daniel.schweizer#daedalos.com Daniel Schweizer
Guido.Vrankar#daedalos.com Guido Vrankar
jgreve#directobjects.com John Greve
TimAnderson#drakemusicproject.com Tim Anderson
vinay#DynamicResources.com Vinay Mutha
derek.baldwin#eds.com Derek T Baldwin
tgagne#efinnet.com Thomas Gagne
wkohl#enron.com william kohl
dmacq#erols.com Donald MacQueen
julesd#erols.com Jules Dubois
mcclenon#erols.com Bob McClenon
yanick.beaudet#esec.com Yanick Beaudet
craig#ezboard.com <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Craig=20
jdbell#fareselaw.com Jerry Bell
Don.Rylander#FordConsultingGroup.com Don Rylander
dparshan#ford.com David Parshan
wilsongj#freeuk.com Geoff Wilson
martiald#gemstone.com Martial Dore
Benar.Kayali#de.heidelberg.com Benar Kayali
bobn#home.com Bob Nemec
brener#home.com Aron Brener
jeffhallman#home.com Jeff Hallman
long.i2s#home.com Long On
patrickdlogan#home.com Patrick Logan
slosher2#home.com Robert Withers
swart#home.com Steve Wart
chas_wade#hotmail.com Chas Wade
lostpuppy3#hotmail.com Bradley Pitt
nathan235#hotmail.com nathan235
suchak_jani#hotmail.com Suchak Jani
toejam_78#hotmail.com Toejamn Mann
warb_sucks#hotmail.com Walter A.R. Burns
messick#instantiations.com Steve Messick
sames#interaccess.com Samuel S. Shuster
rharper#intouchsurvey.com Russell Harper</FONT></DIV>
bcole#jmpstart.com William Cole
tgriggs#keyww.com Griggs, Travis
scline#ksc.com Steve Cline
sphilp#ksc.com Samantha=20
Brian.Gridley#LibertyMutual.com Brian Gridley
rapp#lmr.com L. M. Rappaport
johnc#logicarts.com John Clapperton
popov#macrocosmsystems.com Boris =
jarober#mail.com James A. Robertson
kevin.johnson#medtronic.com Kevin Johnson
susan.johnson#medtronic.com Susan R. Johnson
steve_burgess#merck.com Steve Burgess
stevek#metacase.com Steven Kelly
cdemersnews#mitchellscientific.com Christopher J. Demers
phatch#mojowire.com Peter Hatch
Michael_Chean#email.msn.com Michael_Chean
ltrutter#my-deja.com
jskurnick#ix.netcom.com Jennifer Skurnick
nanji#ix.netcom.com Ravilal N. Khatri
nara#netcom.com nara
kszabo#nortelnetworks.com Kevin Szabo</FONT>
sgelkins#nortelnetworks.com Steven Elkins
blair#object-arts.com Blair=20
bower#object-arts.com Andy Bower
clavender#object-arts.com Catherine Lavender
spreece#object-arts.com Sally Preece
kboutin#omnisig.com Karl Boutin
Guido.Stet#nl.origin-it.com Stet, Guido
dc#panix.com David W. Crawford
squid#panix.com Yeoh Yiu
Jeffrey_Jordan#progressive.com Jeff Jordan
DRichter#pwrteam.com Daryl J. Richter
dway#riskmetrics.com Doug Way
Rjstaron#ra.rockwell.com Ray Staron
seana#romaxtech.com Sean Akers
gjohnson#dream.season.com Gary Johnson
wdargel#shoshana.com Bill Dargel
johnmci#smalltalkconsulting.com John M McIntosh
clayberg#smalltalksystems.com Eric Clayberg
david#speco.com David Schutt
stamper#stamper.com Chris Stamper
carlg#world.std.com Carl E. Gundel
pearapon#ksc.th.com Pearapon Saerekul
dougob#the-spa.com Doug O'Brien
eguy#tisny.com Ed Trembicki-Guy
andrzej.turowski#ubs.com
Fred.Heida#au.unisys.com Heida, Fred
xanthian#well.com Kent Paul DOlan
zach#zachbaker.com Zach Baker
dhz#zh.com Dieter H. Zebbedies
herbert.ehrlich#basf-ag.de Herbert Ehrlich <herbert.ehrlich#web.de>
Juergen.Timm#bmw.de Juergen Timm
pierre.schwarz#exept.de Pierre Schwarz
bguder#gmx.de Birgit Guder
Ekkehard.Uthke#gmx.de Ekkehard Uthke
hpreichert#interflex.de Hans-Peter Reichert
list-votes#dream.kn-bremen.de Martin Schr"oder
gamba#mlap.de Alfonso Gambuzza
duchene#mainz.netsurf.de Horst Duch=EAne
christian.haider#t-online.de Christian Haider
hoelzl#informatik.uni-muenchen.de Matthias Hölzl
holger#wizards.de Holger Hoffstaette
bouvin#daimi.au.dk Niels Olof Bouvin
viralbus#daimi.au.dk Thomas Widmann
paint007#mc.duke.edu Christopher Painter-Wakefield
jtgalkowski#alum.mit.edu Jan Theodore Galkowski
pfaffben#msu.edu Ben Pfaff
jtbrc#rc.rit.edu Tracy Burdick
rick#bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
johnson#cs.uiuc.edu Ralph Johnson
rufinus#mbe.ece.wisc.edu J Rufinus
xavier.alvarez#emn.fr Xavier Alvarez
alexstr#actcom.co.il Alexander Strugatsky
brisker#actcom.co.il Tomer Brisker
enrico.badella#softstar.it Enrico Badella
michele#diee.unica.it Michele Marchesi
rkrock#attglobal.net Reg Krock
macdonaldrj#att.net Richard MacDonald
harry#chomsky.net Harry Chomsky
james#foster.net James Foster
tbrumley#fuse.net Troy Brumley
c.hintze#gmx.net Clemens Hintze
fefr#gmx.net Felix Franz
J.Podgajny#gmx.net Jaroslaw Podgajny
john.link#gmx.net Johannes Link
R.Tiefenthal#gmx.net Raymond Tiefenthal
nikboyd#jps.net Nik Boyd
kneecap#netnet.net Neal Cappel
tim#newmarch.net Tim Newmarch</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
eliotm#pacbell.net Eliot Miranda
daswartz#prodigy.net Douglas A Swartz
omar.tejada#prodigy.net Omar Tejada
hayes22#swbell.net Chris Hayes
ian-news#upright.net Ian Upright
ajtibben#home.nl Andre Tibben
r.vanette#pink.nl Robert-Jan van Ette
rob#sepher.nl Rob Vens
Ole-Martin.Halck#ffi.no Ole Martin Halck
John_David_Galt#acm.org John David Galt
jpelrine#acm.org Joseph Pelrine
knight#acm.org Alan Knight
pieber#acm.org Bernhard Pieber
pmryan#acm.org Patrick M. Ryan
rjmct#acm.org Bob Manjoney
reinz#Desk.org Reinout Heeck
dgroves#emgo.org Don Groves
Charlie_Jernigan#gbophb.org Charlie Jernigan
bonzini#gnu.org Carlo, Paolo & Germana
Craig.Latta#NetJam.ORG Craig Latta
steve#serf.org Steve Zara
nevin#smalltalk.org Nevin Pratt
reichowa#tcfreenet.org Aaron Jon Reichow
zen0n#klub.chip.pl Zenobiusz Zimny
zaroda#mimuw.edu.pl Artur Zaroda
arad#pol.pl Alek Radomski
pl#abc.se Per Lang
stefant#algonet.se Stefan Tersin
janko.mivsek#eranova.si Janko Mivsek
dgs#argonet.co.uk dgs
chris.uppal#toadskin.demon.co.uk Chris Uppal
ian#iandb.ezesurf.co.uk Ian Bartholomew
nick#yannakoyorgos.freeserve.co.uk Nicholas Yannakoyorgos
john_oshea#wordbank.co.uk John O'Shea
Voted NO
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rurban#sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Reini Urban
jlbaker#advbool.com John L. Baker
tsattler#avesta.com
kimdv#best.com Kim DeVaughn
stainles#bga.com Dwight Brown
prs#gol.com Peter Stephenson
alexis_rzewski#hotmail.com Alexis Rzewski
gprrspw#mindspring.com G.P. Ryan
olav#viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar
sleepy#net1plus.com Alexander Pennace
tgm#netcom.com Thomas G. McWilliams
jimrtex#pipeline.com Jim Riley
RYnchausti#vialink.com Randy A. Ynchausti
Abhay.Natu#wcom.com Abhay Natu
naddy#mips.inka.de Christian Weisgerber
jtuchel#objektfabrik.de Joachim Tuchel
nolasco#inx.net Jun Nolasco
mmontcha#OregonVOS.net Matthew Montchalin
gbloomf#paediatrics.co.nz Guy Bloomfield
jeeves#malpeque.org Olav Nieuwejaar
jon#thomson2273.freeserve.co.uk Jon Thomson
chriseb#ukshells.co.uk Chris Ebenezer
Abstained
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chris#kzim.com Christopher Robin Zimmerman
aahz#netcom.com Aahz
Invalid ballots
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reto.fabbri#less.ch Fabbri Reto
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