From: "Bryan Oakley" <boakley@austin.rr.com> To: Dr.Dobb's.Tcl-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Aug 13) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:43:49 -0500 (CDT) Quote(s) of the week: "Face it. Some times, in order to learn a language, you have to learn the language." -- Jonathan E. Guyer "But opinions don't really count, what counts is people doing real work on things :-)" -- David N. Welton "Thanks for your help. You've collapsed a two week struggle into a two day implementation." -- Rick Hedin "Is Tcl being used by 40 year olds? Probabbly, indeed, maybe cause many of them have been around the block, and have come to appreciate turning man years, into man weeks." -- Nicolas Boretos "There is no kludge too cheap!" -- anonymous conferee --- Did you know...Bitmover (http://www.bitkeeper.com) uses Tcl/Tk for the graphical front end of their revolutionary, cross-platform, distributed source code management system "BitKeeper"?. --- Huge congratulations to Don Libes: The 100th anniversary of the National Institute of Standards and Technology was celebrated with the production of a book reprinting 100 of its classic publications. In an extremely competitive field, the first Expect paper, "Curing Those Uncontrollable Fits of Interaction" was selected (along with such other classics as "The Absolute Measure of the Ampere" (1934) and "Code for Information Interchange - ASCII" (1968)). http://www.100.nist.gov http://nvl.nist.gov/pub/nistpubs/sp958-lide/cntsp958.htm Tcl 8.4a3 has been released and is available from ActiveState. Jean-Luc Fontaine continues to provide a valuable service, packaging up these same bits into a Redhat RPM. http://groups.google.com/groups?th=ffde3bef67a60f29,6 http://groups.google.com/groups?th=62d2a41bedc6184d,1 TclSOAP seems to be generating lots of discussion, interest and activity. The TclSOAP package is now up to version 1.6. There was also a discussion on the pros and cons of adding TclSOAP to tcllib. http://groups.google.com/groups?th=38509c75786448a3,1 http://groups.google.com/groups?th=5545446b4a22cd6e,16 If you want to compile Tcl or an extension on Windows you might be interested in a fairly long thread discussing the merits of TEA (Tcl Extension Architecture) versus native VC++ compilation http://groups.google.com/groups?th=8f0ffeb40323954e,39 Wish to do home automation scripting with Tcl? Version 1.0 of x10bot was released. http://groups.google.com/groups?th=86b4a1dc499ccdfd,1 If you are interested in running tcl scripts on your Palm handheld you might be interested in the Rivendell project. Rivendell was for a while known as "PalmTcl" but was renamed to avoid nameclashes with another similar effort. http://groups.google.com/groups?th=330762f295eab0f,0 The beginnings of a full text indexing package ("which can be used to implement simple search engines") was announced. The project is in alpha state, with working code but little documentation. If you need to index large amounts of text, this might save you the trouble of doing it yourself. http://groups.google.com/groups?th=7843517709d06622,1 Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries http://www.westend.com/~kupries/c.l.t.welcome.html Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/ Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly organized resource center of documents and software with provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software and update ... as you release new versions." http://tcl.activestate.com/resource/ The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl is a good thing http://tcl.activestate.com/scripting/ The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl. http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/wiki/0.html For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..." http://mini.net/tcl/969.html NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/ Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/ Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/ Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here: http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html --in principal. In spring 2001, though, http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/ http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/ are more consistently up-to-date. A fourth possibility is http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome. To receive a new issue of this posting in e-mail each Monday, ask <claird@neosoft.com> to subscribe. Be sure to mention "Tcl-URL!". -- Dr. Dobb's Journal (http://www.ddj.com) is pleased to participate in and sponsor the "Tcl-URL!" project.