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From:	 "Bryan Oakley" <boakley@austin.rr.com>
To:	 Dr.Dobb's.Tcl-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com
Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Aug 13)
Date:	 Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:43:49 -0500 (CDT)

Quote(s) of the week:

"Face it. Some times, in order to learn a language, you have to learn
the language." -- Jonathan E. Guyer

"But opinions don't really count, what counts is people doing real work
on things :-)" -- David N. Welton

"Thanks for your help.  You've collapsed a two week struggle into a
two day implementation." -- Rick Hedin

"Is Tcl being used by 40 year olds? Probabbly, indeed, maybe
cause many of them have been around the block, and have come to
appreciate turning man years, into man weeks." -- Nicolas Boretos

"There is no kludge too cheap!" -- anonymous conferee
---
    Did you know...Bitmover (http://www.bitkeeper.com) uses Tcl/Tk
    for the graphical front end of their revolutionary, cross-platform,
    distributed source code management system "BitKeeper"?.
---
    Huge congratulations to Don Libes: The 100th anniversary of the
    National Institute of Standards and Technology was celebrated with
    the production of a book reprinting 100 of its classic publications. 
    In an extremely competitive field, the first Expect paper, "Curing
    Those Uncontrollable Fits of Interaction" was selected (along with
    such other classics as "The Absolute Measure of the Ampere" (1934)
    and "Code for Information Interchange - ASCII" (1968)).
       http://www.100.nist.gov
       http://nvl.nist.gov/pub/nistpubs/sp958-lide/cntsp958.htm

    Tcl 8.4a3 has been released and is available from ActiveState.
    Jean-Luc Fontaine continues to provide a valuable service,
    packaging up these same bits into a Redhat RPM.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=ffde3bef67a60f29,6
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=62d2a41bedc6184d,1

    TclSOAP seems to be generating lots of discussion, interest and
    activity. The TclSOAP package is now up to version 1.6. There was
    also a discussion on the pros and cons of adding TclSOAP to tcllib.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=38509c75786448a3,1
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=5545446b4a22cd6e,16

    If you want to compile Tcl or an extension on Windows you might be
    interested in a fairly long thread discussing the merits of TEA (Tcl
    Extension Architecture) versus native VC++ compilation
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=8f0ffeb40323954e,39

    Wish to do home automation scripting with Tcl? Version 1.0 of x10bot
    was released.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=86b4a1dc499ccdfd,1

    If you are interested in running tcl scripts on your Palm handheld
    you might be interested in the Rivendell project. Rivendell was for
    a while known as "PalmTcl" but was renamed to avoid nameclashes with
    another similar effort.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=330762f295eab0f,0

    The beginnings of a full text indexing package ("which can be used
    to implement simple search engines") was announced. The project is
    in alpha state, with working code but little  documentation. If you
    need to index large amounts of text, this might save you the
    trouble of doing it yourself.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=7843517709d06622,1


Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages:

    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.westend.com/~kupries/c.l.t.welcome.html

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly
    organized resource center of documents and software with
    provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software
    and update ... as you release new versions."
        http://tcl.activestate.com/resource/
    The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl
    is a good thing
        http://tcl.activestate.com/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl.
        http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/wiki/0.html
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://mini.net/tcl/969.html

    NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive
        http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/

    Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest
        http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/   

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here:
  http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html
--in principal.  In spring 2001, though,
  http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/
  http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/
are more consistently up-to-date.  A fourth possibility is                 
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl  

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

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