From:	 Arjen Markus <Arjen.Markus@wldelft.nl>
To:	 Dr.Dobb's.Tcl-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com
Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Oct 22)
Date:	 Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:25:46 -0500 (CDT)

QOTWs:  "If you have to ask the user something - it's worth saving the
answer." Pat Thoyts    

"You can write fortran type code in any language."  Jeff Mincy
             
"No point of closing root access if then you're letting
username/passwords fly in the open via FTP or telnet."  Acacio Cruz

    My woe, last week, concerning the lack of support for
    statistical packages was premature:  both "R" and "dataplot" are
    very complete packages that are freely available and have a Tcl/Tk
    interface.  The original poster wanted a Tcl-only package though.
    See: <http://mini.net/tcl/statistics>

    Announcement of a number of packages: - Tcl/Tk 8.4a4 for Mac OSX -
    this makes a lot of people happy. Available via CVS
	http://groups.google.com/groups?th=2e12029838bdf9fa
    - Compiler for Tcl/Tk, version 2.2, Available at
        http://www.compiler-factory.com

    Is anyone successful porting Tk to the agenda PDA?  A lively
    discussion regarding the issues
	http://groups.google.com/groups?th=d712951538f98370
    stimulated a WIKI page about the OS's that Tcl runs on
	http://mini.net/tcl/2420.html

    Revival of DOS 16 applications: has Tcl really been ported to this
    environment? Perhaps this site helps out:
        http://www.nyx.net/~tpoindex/tcl.html#mstcl

    WebSphere may have adopted Tcl as the main scripting language, but
    launching programs via "exec" causes difficulties. They culminate
    with long command-lines. 
	http://groups.google.com/groups?th=7ab9e29757b2bae0

    The remarkable flexibility of Tcl does not go unnoted, except with
    the bosses of this world. Though it is possible to combine Oratcl
    and Perl, just for keeping him/her happy, why go not go for the one
    or the other?  - If anything, the design will be cleaner.
	http://groups.google.com/groups?th=66eb610d2a242ca8

    For anyone interested (and there are quite a few people out there!): 
        http://mini.net/tcl/awk
    guides you from AWK to Tcl.  File processing never was easier!

    Talking of threads? What about the executable ones, especially in
    Tcl/Tk?  Well, good news: Tcl and Tk will both become threadable,
    look for version 8.3.4!
	http://groups.google.com/groups?th=85d40c6e64fb8f6

    And this week's special item:  Tcl about to become a lingua franca,
    as many people are realising that they want to be able to use it
    not only in the context of C/C++ but also other languages like
    Pascal and Fortran? - I, for one, sincerely hope so!
	http://groups.google.com/groups?th=70c106fe21a389e


Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages:

    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly
    organized resource center of documents and software with
    provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software
    and update ... as you release new versions."
        http://tcl.activestate.com/resource/
    The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl
    is a good thing
        http://tcl.activestate.com/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl.
        http://purl.org/mini/tcl/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://purl.org/mini/tcl/969

    NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive
        http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/

    Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest
        http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/   

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here:
  http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html
--in principal.  In spring 2001, though,
  http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/
  http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/
are more consistently up-to-date.  A fourth possibility is                 
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl  

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

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