From: Brett Schwarz <brett_schwarz@yahoo.com> To: Dr.Dobb's.Tcl-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Dec 4) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:58:19 -0600 (CST) QOTW: "> And, picture yourself standing in the exercise yard of a federal > prison; there are guards with machine guns all around, and big > ugly guys with bad attitudes looking at you and not liking what > they see. And post accordingly. Nah, that's comp.lang.perl. This group is more like a school playground where the place is filled with kids who see gems when other people only see rocks, and everyone shares in the magic of a found treasure even if it's really just something a grown-up threw away. And when they find something that truly is junk it is just thrown away with a laugh, and a race to find the next cool thing :-)" Bryan Oakley http://groups.google.com/groups?th=59755e6454ebf2d7 "If these wieners [who post to comp.lang.tcl] (and I mean that in the nicest possible way) can't help, I don't know who can." Ian McGarva http://groups.google.com/groups?th=c6d09f3d4dddb920 "You can reasonably expect to sit down at a 'bare' computer, and install, begin to use, and acquire a rudimentary feel for Tcl/Tk in a couple of hours." Cameron Laird http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=VyvN7.629%24RQ6.28587%40typhoon.austin.rr.com "Maybe if Tcl/Tk were harder to learn, or more confusing, or you needed to look things up a lot when you were using it. Then people would buy more books. :-) [oreilly.com lists 28 Perl books, and only 4 Tcl books]" Bob Techentin http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9u8hhv%24s9l%241%40srv38.cas.org Scrollable canvas, is the end in sight? http://groups.google.com/groups?th=a7f9416665bb4749 Executing mailto on windows http://groups.google.com/groups?th=602487d12f188fca More lessons in regexp http://groups.google.com/groups?th=cda7ef577e79b545 http://groups.google.com/groups?th=342e554c81abb41 Tcl: the world's leading test-automation language. http://mini.net/tcl/testing More graph madness http://mini.net/tcl/2653.html TCL for EDA web site http://www.tclforeda.net Tcl cronjob http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pgpmoose.200111300840.13796%40non.non.net TKSEC - The TK Secure Communications Suite http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pgpmoose.200111301006.14836%40non.non.net Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/ Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly organized resource center of documents and software with provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software and update ... as you release new versions." http://www.tcl-tk.net/resource/ The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl is a good thing http://www.tcl-tk.net/scripting/ The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl. http://purl.org/mini/tcl/0 For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..." http://purl.org/mini/tcl/969 NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/ Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/ Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/ Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here: http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html --in principal. In spring 2001, though, http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/ http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/ are more consistently up-to-date. A fourth possibility is http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome. To receive a new issue of this posting in e-mail each Monday, ask <claird@neosoft.com> to subscribe. Be sure to mention "Tcl-URL!". -- Dr. Dobb's Journal (http://www.ddj.com) is pleased to participate in and sponsor the "Tcl-URL!" project.