From: Laurent Duperval <lduperval@videotron.ca> To: Dr.Dobb's.Tcl-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Feb 19) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:16:03 -0600 (CST) QOTW: "They are all strings. That's Tcl." -Pat Thoyts "With Jeff H as our Bishop we could conquer the world ..." -Acacio Cruz "Only if I get one of those cool hats!" -Jeff Hobbs "Thank goodness I've not corrupted the minds of my children with that _OTHER_ operating system..." -Larry Virden "I am afraid Tcl is so simple and easy to use that there is no point in writing one book after the next." -Harald Kirsch "I would give to be a student again. Find a couple bored friends. Have a semester long hack fest." -Jeff Hobbs Subject title of the week: Tcl/Tk 8.4 (CVS tar ball 10 feb 2002) works! If you want to do password encryption in Tcl, there are a few alternatives. Check 'em out. Subject: "Password encryption" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=dbfbb3e89b2a68fd Provide a cool GUI for your command-line program, using Expect. Subject: "Tcl/Tk/Expect for NT to interact w/Fortran console apps?" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=baca13c359d1f71 Java roolz! Oops, did I just say that? Wait let me... ^H^H^H^H^H Oh no! My keyboard is broken! Subject: "python vs java (vs tcl?) benchmarks" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=225b4dbf286956de Your program can't trusted to remember everything on its own? Then have it share its memory with others, so the knowledge isn't lost for all time. ... What? ... That's not what shared memory is all about? What is it then? ANd how do you Tcl it? Subject: "TclMM - Tcl shared memory interface" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=bb5f37424b374305 Can't shake the C from your blood? You need that struct in your code? Do it Tcl-style! Subject: "Can structures (like "struct" in C) be defined in tcl-scripting, or ?" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=e09fedb78ddf6615 An annoucement for a new type of parser (EXIF -- what is it anyway?) eventually leads to a good discussion on a Tcl code repository. Toobad the second discussion wasn't forked into a new thread. Subject: "EXIF in Tcl" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=b5537decc4d8ef2 Your boss and/or colleagues think Tcl is just playware? Have them look at this success story. Subject: "Touchy/feely" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=16306934a522b118 It can send shivers up the spine of serious Tcl developers. It's called "shimmering". What does it do? How does it affect your code? How can you protect your choldren from it? Subject: "Custom Tcl_Obj, call frame" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=1ada25afa941e3e0 Want to determine when an exec'd process has died? Or, you're feeling vicious and you want to kill it yourself? Well, learn a bit about the pitfalls and the solutions. Subject: "process events" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=28c4b901a3e854c0 Subject: "How to detect that an exec'd process has finished" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=43e12fc11c6c4f20 A simple request from a PHB (pointy-haired boss) turns into a debate on the evils of code documentation. We have all the lurid details. Subject: "Q: Tcl Call Tree Generator" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=f7795bf659b2294e This come up again and again and again. But each time, it helps you better understand the Tao of Tcl: what exactly are lists? Subject: "A list predicate" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=f4e7ea937de4191 Yeah, Java so roolz, that we want to add some of its more interesting constructs to our favourite language. Subject: "try/except in the core" http://groups.google.com/groups?th=514b7703a85dfbbe Announcements: ------------- tclhttpd 3.3.1: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=2fae9bea3c635602 tkoutline 0.65: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=qJla8.38938%24s43.13010016%40typhoon.columbus.rr.com TclSASL 1.0.0: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=4dac1f706496741e Call For Papers: 9th Annual Tcl/Tk Conference, Sept 16-20, 2002 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3C6C6D00.49D8CA32%40ActiveState.com TclPro 1.5.0.2 and 1.6.0.1 beta 1 http://groups.google.com/groups?th=710ef7ee0b776448 3rd European Tcl/Tk User Meeting and Call for Papers http://groups.google.com/groups?th=d1c552e792e5edd4 Does this man never stop??!! moodss-15.8 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3C6FB758.B76FF6F4%40free.fr Fltk 0.3 Bugfix Release 0b1 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3C6EE6EC.43E312E4%40videotron.ca Yeti 0.4 http://groups.google.com/groups?th=8e09ccb5a144e30 browser 0.1 package for TkHTML http://groups.google.com/groups?th=1ad1217c53b7c12c Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/ Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly organized resource center of documents and software with provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software and update ... as you release new versions." http://www.tcl-tk.net/resource/ The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl is a good thing http://www.tcl-tk.net/scripting/ The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl. http://purl.org/mini/tcl/0 For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..." http://purl.org/mini/tcl/969 ActiveState Tools maintains a Cookbook of Tcl recipes http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/ Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/ Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/ Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here: http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html --in principal. In spring 2001, though, http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/ http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/ are more consistently up-to-date. A fourth possibility is http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome. To receive a new issue of this posting in e-mail each Monday, ask <claird@neosoft.com> to subscribe. Be sure to mention "Tcl-URL!". -- Dr. Dobb's Journal (http://www.ddj.com) is pleased to participate in and sponsor the "Tcl-URL!" project.