From: "Garrett Johnson" <garry@erols.com> Subject: Re: [ALL] Smalltalk Solutions '99 .. someone like to give a report? Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 00:41:27 -0500 It was my first trip to this as well and I agree it was small compared with the "Rock Concerts" that Microsoft tends to throw but I thought the technical content was keeping both newbies and experts very interested. We had 3 people at the conference since we could not have covered enough material with one person and two would have stretched it. I've only been involved with Smalltalk for a couple of years but it seemed as if there is a lot more Smalltalk going on than the show's attendance demonstrated. References to Smalltalk development efforts happening in "stealth mode" were amusing and seemed to agree with the lack of publicized information I had found in the press. However many of the people I spoke to were working on fairly large development efforts that were underway or just beginning so I think the old adage about "rumors of my death being greatly exaggerated" seem to apply. IBM's web site even has a statement to the effect that IBM is in Smalltalk for the "long haul". More references to that effect and similar statements from ObjectShare are on the STIC website. It all seems strange to me since after dealing with C, and C++ on UNIX and then NT, and various attempts at rapid development environments like VB and PowerBuilder for the last 15 years (well OK, 18 years -- and as long as you don't count college and high school :-)), Smalltalk has been a very enjoyable experience. Many development environments I have dealt with in the past seem to all be attempts at replicating what Smalltalk has had all along. However I wonder if Smalltalk had caused the "love-in" that Java seems to have caused if it would still be the object of desire for those in this community (of which I now count myself a new member) or would it have been forever damaged due to those infamous "market forces"? Oh well, back to the show... There seems to be a fair amount of interest around all the new features in IBM's VAST 4.5 like Server Smalltalk, WebConnect, Ultra Light Client, and the mainframe port. I was at most of those sessions and they were well attended with tons of questions. VAST 5.0 is due later this year with "rumors" about better tools for easier integration with RMI and IIOP based systems. These are technologies that will require some rework of existing code to turn a fat client into a server capable of handling multiple users but we prototyped that in our lab and our fears about performance were unfounded (at least for the application we used). ObjectShare announced and released version 5i of their product. Synchrony Systems was there with a new version of Smalltalk Migration Technology(SMT). New books coming on Mastering ENVY/Developer and a series on XP (eXtreme Programming). It was a good week from my perspective. If all goes well I'll be back next year since I know we'll have a lot more Smalltalk code in our product by then! Garry Johnson Microbank Software, Inc. http://www.microbank.com Dennis Smith wrote in message <36f3f084.21106914@client.news.psi.ca>... >For those of us who did not make it this year? > >================================================================= >Dennis Smith, MaSc -- Cherniak Software Development Corporation >400-10 Commerce Valley Dr E, Thornhill ON Canada L3T 7N7 >Phone: 905.771.7011 FAX: 905.771.6288 >quenton@cherniak.on.ca http://www.cherniak.on.ca