Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 22:01:32 -0500 (EST)
From: Abdulmajid Sharif <sharif@hive.SUS.McGill.CA>
To: redhat-devel-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: starbuck vs. rawhide ? 

you can try ftp.redhat.com/pub/starbuck

i couldn't in get so you may want to try some mirrors :

ftp://phyppro1.phy.bnl.gov/pub/mirror/redhat-main/starbuck/
ftp://ftp.eecs.umich.edu/pub/linux/redhat/redhat/starbuck/
ftp://ftp.wtfo.com/pub/linux/redhat/ftp.redhat.com/starbuck/

 I tried installing Starbuck but the ftp site (BNL) was missing
initscripts. I even managed to boot into the kernel but it got stuck ;-)

On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Miles Lane wrote:

> 
> So where can Starbuck be picked up?  It wasn't specificied in the
> announcement.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Jurgen Botz wrote:
> 
> > Christopher McCrory wrote:
> > > 	Is there a difference between rawhide current and starbuck?
> > 
> > Yes.  To be precise:
> > 
> > --- (rawhide)
> > +++ (starbuck)
> > @@ -13 +13 @@
> > -WindowMaker-0.51.0-2.i386.rpm
> > +WindowMaker-0.51.2-2.i386.rpm
> > @@ -15,8 +15,8 @@
> > -XFree86-100dpi-fonts-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-3DLabs-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-75dpi-fonts-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-8514-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-AGX-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-FBDev-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-I128-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-100dpi-fonts-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-3DLabs-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-75dpi-fonts-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-8514-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-AGX-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-FBDev-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-I128-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > @@ -30,17 +30,17 @@
> > -XFree86-Mach32-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-Mach64-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-Mach8-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-Mono-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-P9000-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-S3-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-S3V-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-SVGA-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-VGA16-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-W32-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-XF86Setup-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-Xnest-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-Xvfb-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-cyrillic-fonts-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-devel-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-libs-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > -XFree86-xfs-3.3.3.1-21.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-Mach32-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-Mach64-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-Mach8-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-Mono-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-P9000-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-S3-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-S3V-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-SVGA-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-VGA16-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-W32-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-XF86Setup-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-Xnest-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-Xvfb-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-cyrillic-fonts-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-devel-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-libs-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > +XFree86-xfs-3.3.3.1-22.i386.rpm
> > @@ -49 +49 @@
> > -Xconfigurator-4.1-2.i386.rpm
> > +Xconfigurator-4.1-4.i386.rpm
> > @@ -54,2 +54,2 @@
> > -apache-1.3.4-1.i386.rpm
> > -apache-devel-1.3.4-1.i386.rpm
> > +apache-1.3.4-3.i386.rpm
> > +apache-devel-1.3.4-3.i386.rpm
> > @@ -63 +63 @@
> > -authconfig-1.3-1.i386.rpm
> > +authconfig-1.3-2.i386.rpm
> > @@ -68 +68 @@
> > -basesystem-6.0-1.noarch.rpm
> > +basesystem-6.0-3.noarch.rpm
> > @@ -76,3 +76,3 @@
> > -bind-8.1.2-6.i386.rpm
> > -bind-devel-8.1.2-6.i386.rpm
> > -bind-utils-8.1.2-6.i386.rpm
> > +bind-8.2-1.i386.rpm
> > +bind-devel-8.2-1.i386.rpm
> > +bind-utils-8.2-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -82 +82 @@
> > -bootparamd-0.10-10.i386.rpm
> > +bootparamd-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > @@ -88 +88 @@
> > -chkconfig-1.0.1-3.i386.rpm
> > +chkconfig-1.0.2-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -92,4 +92,4 @@
> > -comsat-0.10-7.i386.rpm
> > -console-tools-19980811-3.i386.rpm
> > -control-center-1.0.2-2.i386.rpm
> > -control-center-devel-1.0.2-2.i386.rpm
> > +comsat-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > +console-tools-19990302-1.i386.rpm
> > +control-center-1.0.3-2.i386.rpm
> > +control-center-devel-1.0.3-2.i386.rpm
> > @@ -98,2 +98,2 @@
> > -cpp-1.1.1-8.i386.rpm
> > -cproto-4.4-8.i386.rpm
> > +cpp-1.1.2-10.i386.rpm
> > +cproto-4.6-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -110 +110 @@
> > -diffutils-2.7-12.i386.rpm
> > +diffutils-2.7-13.i386.rpm
> > @@ -115,2 +115,2 @@
> > -e2fsprogs-1.14-2.i386.rpm
> > -e2fsprogs-devel-1.14-2.i386.rpm
> > +e2fsprogs-1.14-3.i386.rpm
> > +e2fsprogs-devel-1.14-3.i386.rpm
> > @@ -120,4 +120,4 @@
> > -egcs-1.1.1-8.i386.rpm
> > -egcs-c++-1.1.1-8.i386.rpm
> > -egcs-g77-1.1.1-8.i386.rpm
> > -egcs-objc-1.1.1-8.i386.rpm
> > +egcs-1.1.2-10.i386.rpm
> > +egcs-c++-1.1.2-10.i386.rpm
> > +egcs-g77-1.1.2-10.i386.rpm
> > +egcs-objc-1.1.2-10.i386.rpm
> > @@ -125 +125 @@
> > -elm-2.4.25-18.i386.rpm
> > +elm-2.5.0-0.2pre8.i386.rpm
> > @@ -131,2 +131,2 @@
> > -enlightenment-0.15.0-36.i386.rpm
> > -enlightenment-conf-0.14-4.i386.rpm
> > +enlightenment-0.15.3-3.i386.rpm
> > +enlightenment-conf-0.15-3.i386.rpm
> > @@ -144 +144 @@
> > -fbset-2.0.19981028-2.i386.rpm
> > +fbset-2.0.19990118-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -150 +150 @@
> > -finger-0.10-8.i386.rpm
> > +finger-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > @@ -157 +157 @@
> > -ftp-0.10-8.i386.rpm
> > +ftp-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > @@ -169 +169 @@
> > -gdm-1.0.0-9.i386.rpm
> > +gdm-1.0.0-13.i386.rpm
> > @@ -176 +176 @@
> > -ghostscript-5.10-4.i386.rpm
> > +ghostscript-5.10-5.i386.rpm
> > @@ -178,0 +179,4 @@
> > +gimp-1.0.3-2.SNAP.i386.rpm
> > +gimp-data-extras-1.0.0-3.noarch.rpm
> > +gimp-devel-1.0.3-2.SNAP.i386.rpm
> > +gimp-libgimp-1.0.3-2.SNAP.i386.rpm
> > @@ -187 +191 @@
> > -gmc-4.5.24-2.i386.rpm
> > +gmc-4.5.26-2.i386.rpm
> > @@ -192,7 +196,7 @@
> > -gnome-core-1.0.1-6.i386.rpm
> > -gnome-core-devel-1.0.1-6.i386.rpm
> > -gnome-games-1.0.1-2.i386.rpm
> > -gnome-games-devel-1.0.1-2.i386.rpm
> > -gnome-libs-1.0.2-1.i386.rpm
> > -gnome-libs-devel-1.0.2-1.i386.rpm
> > -gnome-linuxconf-0.17-4.i386.rpm
> > +gnome-core-1.0.3-6.i386.rpm
> > +gnome-core-devel-1.0.3-6.i386.rpm
> > +gnome-games-1.0.1-5.i386.rpm
> > +gnome-games-devel-1.0.1-5.i386.rpm
> > +gnome-libs-1.0.3-3.i386.rpm
> > +gnome-libs-devel-1.0.3-3.i386.rpm
> > +gnome-linuxconf-0.19-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -203,5 +207,6 @@
> > -gnome-pim-1.0.1-2.i386.rpm
> > -gnome-pim-devel-1.0.1-2.i386.rpm
> > -gnome-users-guide-1.0.2-1.noarch.rpm
> > -gnome-utils-1.0.1-2.i386.rpm
> > -gnotepad+-1.1.2-1.i386.rpm
> > +gnome-pim-1.0.3-1.i386.rpm
> > +gnome-pim-devel-1.0.3-1.i386.rpm
> > +gnome-users-guide-1.0.3-1.noarch.rpm
> > +gnome-utils-1.0.1-3.i386.rpm
> > +gnorpm-0.7-4.i386.rpm
> > +gnotepad+-1.1.2-2.i386.rpm
> > @@ -209 +214 @@
> > -gnumeric-0.16-2.i386.rpm
> > +gnumeric-0.18-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -222 +227 @@
> > -gtk-engines-0.5-7.i386.rpm
> > +gtk-engines-0.5-8.i386.rpm
> > @@ -250 +255 @@
> > -imap-4.4-4.i386.rpm
> > +imap-4.5-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -258 +263 @@
> > -initscripts-3.92-2.i386.rpm
> > +initscripts-3.96-4.i386.rpm
> > @@ -285,8 +290,8 @@
> > -kernel-2.2.3-2.i386.rpm
> > -kernel-BOOT-2.2.3-2.i386.rpm
> > -kernel-doc-2.2.3-2.i386.rpm
> > -kernel-headers-2.2.3-2.i386.rpm
> > -kernel-ibcs-2.2.3-2.i386.rpm
> > -kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.3-2.i386.rpm
> > -kernel-smp-2.2.3-2.i386.rpm
> > -kernel-source-2.2.3-2.i386.rpm
> > +kernel-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm
> > +kernel-BOOT-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm
> > +kernel-doc-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm
> > +kernel-headers-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm
> > +kernel-ibcs-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm
> > +kernel-pcmcia-cs-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm
> > +kernel-smp-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm
> > +kernel-source-2.2.3-5.i386.rpm
> > @@ -302 +307 @@
> > -less-332-4.i386.rpm
> > +less-332-5.i386.rpm
> > @@ -307,2 +312,2 @@
> > -libghttp-0.99.2-3.i386.rpm
> > -libghttp-devel-0.99.2-3.i386.rpm
> > +libghttp-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm
> > +libghttp-devel-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -321 +326 @@
> > -libstdc++-2.9.0-8.i386.rpm
> > +libstdc++-2.9.0-10.i386.rpm
> > @@ -326,4 +331,4 @@
> > -libtool-1.2d-2.noarch.rpm
> > -libungif-3.1.0-5.i386.rpm
> > -libungif-devel-3.1.0-5.i386.rpm
> > -libungif-progs-3.1.0-5.i386.rpm
> > +libtool-1.2d-3.noarch.rpm
> > +libungif-4.1.0-1.i386.rpm
> > +libungif-devel-4.1.0-1.i386.rpm
> > +libungif-progs-4.1.0-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -333,2 +338,2 @@
> > -linuxconf-1.14-1.i386.rpm
> > -linuxconf-devel-1.14-1.i386.rpm
> > +linuxconf-1.14-2.i386.rpm
> > +linuxconf-devel-1.14-2.i386.rpm
> > @@ -336 +341 @@
> > -losetup-2.9-1.i386.rpm
> > +losetup-2.9-2.i386.rpm
> > @@ -342,2 +346,0 @@
> > -ls-lR
> > -ls-lR.gz
> > @@ -346 +349 @@
> > -ltrace-0.3.4-3.i386.rpm
> > +ltrace-0.3.6-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -350 +353 @@
> > -mailcap-1.0-11.noarch.rpm
> > +mailcap-1.0-12.noarch.rpm
> > @@ -357,2 +360,2 @@
> > -mc-4.5.24-2.i386.rpm
> > -mcserv-4.5.24-2.i386.rpm
> > +mc-4.5.26-2.i386.rpm
> > +mcserv-4.5.26-2.i386.rpm
> > @@ -370 +373 @@
> > -mkisofs-1.12b4-3.i386.rpm
> > +mkisofs-1.12b5-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -378,3 +381,3 @@
> > -modutils-2.1.121-4.i386.rpm
> > -mount-2.9-1.i386.rpm
> > -mouseconfig-3.5-5.i386.rpm
> > +modutils-2.1.121-5.i386.rpm
> > +mount-2.9-2.i386.rpm
> > +mouseconfig-3.6-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -393,2 +396,2 @@
> > -ncurses-4.2-12.i386.rpm
> > -ncurses-devel-4.2-12.i386.rpm
> > +ncurses-4.2-14.i386.rpm
> > +ncurses-devel-4.2-14.i386.rpm
> > @@ -398,6 +401,6 @@
> > -netkit-base-0.10-20.i386.rpm
> > -netscape-common-4.08-6.i386.rpm
> > -netscape-communicator-4.08-6.i386.rpm
> > -netscape-navigator-4.08-6.i386.rpm
> > -newt-0.40-6.i386.rpm
> > -newt-devel-0.40-6.i386.rpm
> > +netkit-base-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > +netscape-common-4.08-7.i386.rpm
> > +netscape-communicator-4.08-7.i386.rpm
> > +netscape-navigator-4.08-7.i386.rpm
> > +newt-0.40-7.i386.rpm
> > +newt-devel-0.40-7.i386.rpm
> > @@ -405 +408 @@
> > -ntsysv-1.0.1-3.i386.rpm
> > +ntsysv-1.0.2-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -409 +412 @@
> > -pam-0.66-3.i386.rpm
> > +pam-0.66-4.i386.rpm
> > @@ -413 +416 @@
> > -pdksh-5.2.12-7.i386.rpm
> > +pdksh-5.2.13-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -433,2 +436,2 @@
> > -procps-2.0-2.i386.rpm
> > -procps-X11-2.0-2.i386.rpm
> > +procps-1.2.10-1.i386.rpm
> > +procps-X11-1.2.10-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -436 +439 @@
> > -psmisc-17-4.i386.rpm
> > +psmisc-18-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -439,2 +442,2 @@
> > -pygnome-0.100-4.i386.rpm
> > -pygtk-0.5.10-4.i386.rpm
> > +pygnome-1.0.1-1.i386.rpm
> > +pygtk-0.5.12-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -444,3 +447,3 @@
> > -pythonlib-1.22-3.noarch.rpm
> > -qt-1.42-7.i386.rpm
> > -qt-devel-1.42-7.i386.rpm
> > +pythonlib-1.22-4.noarch.rpm
> > +qt-1.44-1.i386.rpm
> > +qt-devel-1.44-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -449 +451,0 @@
> > -rawhide-release-1.3.0-1.noarch.rpm
> > @@ -454,0 +457 @@
> > +redhat-release-5.9-1.noarch.rpm
> > @@ -456 +458,0 @@
> > -rhbackup-0.2-2.noarch.rpm
> > @@ -466,7 +468,7 @@
> > -rpm-2.92-6.i386.rpm
> > -rpm-devel-2.92-6.i386.rpm
> > -rsh-0.10-12.i386.rpm
> > -rsync-2.2.1-1.i386.rpm
> > -rusers-0.10-13.i386.rpm
> > -rwall-0.10-11.i386.rpm
> > -rwho-0.10-11.i386.rpm
> > +rpm-2.92-10.i386.rpm
> > +rpm-devel-2.92-10.i386.rpm
> > +rsh-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > +rsync-2.3.0-1.i386.rpm
> > +rusers-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > +rwall-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > +rwho-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > @@ -479,3 +481,3 @@
> > -sendmail-8.8.7-21.i386.rpm
> > -sendmail-cf-8.8.7-21.i386.rpm
> > -sendmail-doc-8.8.7-21.i386.rpm
> > +sendmail-8.9.3-1.i386.rpm
> > +sendmail-cf-8.9.3-1.i386.rpm
> > +sendmail-doc-8.9.3-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -485,2 +487,2 @@
> > -setuptool-1.0-2.i386.rpm
> > -sgmltools-2.0.2-1.i386.rpm
> > +setuptool-1.1-1.i386.rpm
> > +sgmltools-2.0.2-3.i386.rpm
> > @@ -497 +499 @@
> > -sndconfig-0.30-4.i386.rpm
> > +sndconfig-0.31-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -500 +502 @@
> > -specspo-6.0-0.8.3.noarch.rpm
> > +specspo-6.0-0.8.5.noarch.rpm
> > @@ -507,4 +509,4 @@
> > -swatch-2.2-5.noarch.rpm
> > -switchdesk-1.1-3.i386.rpm
> > -switchdesk-gnome-1.1-3.i386.rpm
> > -switchdesk-kde-1.1-3.i386.rpm
> > +swatch-2.2-6.noarch.rpm
> > +switchdesk-1.2-2.i386.rpm
> > +switchdesk-gnome-1.2-2.i386.rpm
> > +switchdesk-kde-1.2-2.i386.rpm
> > @@ -513,2 +515,2 @@
> > -talk-0.10-7.i386.rpm
> > -taper-6.9-4.i386.rpm
> > +talk-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > +taper-6.9-5.i386.rpm
> > @@ -521 +523 @@
> > -telnet-0.10-10.i386.rpm
> > +telnet-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > @@ -523,7 +525,7 @@
> > -tetex-0.9-11.i386.rpm
> > -tetex-afm-0.9-11.i386.rpm
> > -tetex-doc-0.9-11.i386.rpm
> > -tetex-dvilj-0.9-11.i386.rpm
> > -tetex-dvips-0.9-11.i386.rpm
> > -tetex-latex-0.9-11.i386.rpm
> > -tetex-xdvi-0.9-11.i386.rpm
> > +tetex-0.9-13.i386.rpm
> > +tetex-afm-0.9-13.i386.rpm
> > +tetex-doc-0.9-13.i386.rpm
> > +tetex-dvilj-0.9-13.i386.rpm
> > +tetex-dvips-0.9-13.i386.rpm
> > +tetex-latex-0.9-13.i386.rpm
> > +tetex-xdvi-0.9-13.i386.rpm
> > @@ -532 +534 @@
> > -tftp-0.10-8.i386.rpm
> > +tftp-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > @@ -535,2 +537,2 @@
> > -timed-0.10-7.i386.rpm
> > -timetool-2.5-1.noarch.rpm
> > +timed-0.10-21.i386.rpm
> > +timetool-2.5-3.noarch.rpm
> > @@ -560 +562 @@
> > -util-linux-2.9-9.i386.rpm
> > +util-linux-2.9-10.i386.rpm
> > @@ -569,2 +571,2 @@
> > -w3c-libwww-5.2.1-3.i386.rpm
> > -w3c-libwww-devel-5.2.1-3.i386.rpm
> > +w3c-libwww-5.2.6-1.i386.rpm
> > +w3c-libwww-devel-5.2.6-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -573,2 +575,2 @@
> > -wmakerconf-1.4-1.i386.rpm
> > -wmconfig-0.9-1.i386.rpm
> > +wmakerconf-1.7-1.i386.rpm
> > +wmconfig-0.9.2-1.i386.rpm
> > @@ -577,2 +579,2 @@
> > -x11amp-0.9_alpha3-1.i386.rpm
> > -x11amp-devel-0.9_alpha3-1.i386.rpm
> > +x11amp-0.9_alpha3-2.i386.rpm
> > +x11amp-devel-0.9_alpha3-2.i386.rpm
> > @@ -612 +614 @@
> > -xscreensaver-3.07-3.i386.rpm
> > +xscreensaver-3.08-1.i386.rpm
> > 
> > 
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