From: Jeremy Billones <billones@primenet.com> Subject: RESULT: comp.os.linux.security passes 334:13 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:20:14 GMT RESULT unmoderated group comp.os.linux.security passes 334:13 There were 333 YES votes and 13 NO votes, for a total of 346 valid votes. There were 2 abstains and 2 invalid ballots. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: comp.os.linux.security Security and the GNU/Linux Operating System. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Erik de Castro Lopo <erikd@zip.com.au> Votetaker: Jeremy Billones <billones@primenet.com> RATIONALE: comp.os.linux.security The number of users of the Linux Operating System has grown significantly over the last few years. A large number of these new users are connecting their machines to the internet via modems with little or no thought about the security of their machines. In addition, the standard installation procedure of most Linux distributions results in a machine with maximal capabilities but also with a number of possible security holes. A search of a usenet archiving site such as dejanews would quickly find a large number of linux security discussion threads scattered across numerous existing newsgroups. The existing newsgroup comp.security.unix is useful but its discussion content is aimed more at the unix administrator level. Therefore a newsgroup specifically aimed at the home/small business Linux user would complement rather than replace discussion on comp.unix.security. CHARTER: comp.os.linux.security This newsgroup is dedicated to the discussion of issues related to establishing and maintaining the security of machines running the Linux Operating System on all processor architectures. Open discussion of techniques and software for protecting machines against remote attacks (via a network connection) as well as attacks from untrusted local users are welcome. This discussion can include information about which applications are vulnerable, the form of the vulnerability and snippets of source code for demonstrating the vulnerability. The posting of commercial information to this group is permitted only if the information is directly relevant to security and the Linux Operating System. Messages which are cross-posted to or from any advocacy newsgroup are not welcome. As this is a discussion group, the posting binaries is strongly discouraged. Spamming, ECP and EMP of any sort is absolutely not tolerated. END CHARTER. comp.os.linux.security Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 100120.1406#compuserve.com W.Saegesser a.monsalve.salazar#ieee.org Anibal Monsalve Salazar aahz#netcom.com Aahz acc#alvega.dei.isep.ipp.pt Antonio Costa adamb#lull.org Adam Bailey ahall#world.std.com Andrew Hall ajr#softsound.com Tony Robinson ajtr2#cam.ac.uk Alex Ray alan.wylie#zen.co.uk Alan J. Wylie alex#cocoa.demon.co.uk Alex Butcher alex#progressive-systems.com Alexander Hutton AlexS#DiamondMM.com Alexander Stohr alklein#adelphia.net Adam Klein almeida#uberlandia.org Henrique Almeida amcl#acm.org Alan McLean amsantos#fc.up.pt Antonio Murias dos Santos andre.faure#bigfoot.com moi andreas.trottmann#werft22.com Andreas U. Trottmann Andy.Pevy#nmp.nokia.com Andy Pevy andyford#nothnbut.net Andy Ford aprice#healthspace.ca Andrew Price aramazanoglu#demirbank.com.tr Abdullah Ramazanoglu ariel#peresys.co.za Ariel Levien arnves#stud.ntnu.no Arnstein Vestad arp#cyberscience.com Andrew Porrer asparks#nss.harris.com Alan Sparks atan#mail.usyd.edu.au Alex Tan aturner#pobox.com Aaron Turner avbidder#datacomm.ch Adrian von Bidder awilhelm#hvsaa03.nl.lucent.com A.G.J. Wilhelmus b-cape98#bat710.univ-lyon1.fr Benoit CAPELLE barr#cis.ohio-state.edu Dave Barr baxter#trance.ednet.co.uk Baxter Tocher begonia#enoch.buseco.monash.edu.au Liz Drake bentwood#hem.passagen.se George Farrants bhgordo--#netins.net Brandon Gordon bill#xencat.demon.co.uk William Boughton bjv#herbison.com B.J. Herbison bneely#cdrom.com Brett Neely Bob-Gibbons#ti.com Bob Gibbons bob#cave.org Robert Wilkins bob#earthrise.demon.co.uk Bob Tinsley bokr#accessone.com Bengt Richter boud#rempt.xs4all.nl Boudewijn Rempt bouvin#daimi.au.dk Niels Olof Bouvin bpark#renc.igs.net Brian Park bray#iupui.edu Bruce D. Ray brendel#ecn.nl M. Brendel brian#bishopee.com Brian L. Bishop brianr#osiris.978.org Brian Ristuccia brihall#bigfoot.com Brian Hall brown9#niehs.nih.gov Lance A. Brown bruno#asterix.litec.csic.es Bruno A. Crespo bruno#cerberus.csd.uwm.edu Bruno Wolff III bubbamike_01#yahoo.com budr#sirinet.net Bud Rogers bxb121#psu.edu Brett Borger caradoc#neta.com John Groseclose carpente#execpc.com Vinny Carpenter casmith#clark.net Christopher A. Smith channui#austin.ibm.com Christopher Chan-Nui chris#stallion.oz.au Christopher Biggs christof#mediaconsult.com Christof Damian cjw44#cam.ac.uk Colin Watson cknapp#lennon.rift.org Samuel Knapp cloos#jhcloos.com James H. Cloos Jr. cloyce#austin.ibm.com Cloyce D. Spradling colin#aeon.com.my Colin Charles craig#scot.demon.co.uk Craig Cockburn crfriend#ma.ultranet.com Carl R. Friend crispin#cse.ogi.edu Crispin Cowan cruzm#ors.od.nih.gov Miguel Cruz cschoppe#nal.usda.gov Charles W. Schoppet Daniel.Eriksson#abc.se Daniel Eriksson dany.steyaert#ping.be Dany Steyaert dave.bennett#inlandtruck.com Dave Bennett davearonson#geocities.com Dave Aronson davew#eagle.ycp.edu Dave Wagenknecht david#pgfn.bc.ca David Lott davidsen#tmr.com Bill Davidsen DChristensen#chc.gov.mb.ca David Christensen deedsd#nationwide.com Dallas M. Deeds</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> delta#dy.co.nz Glenn McAllister devin#premier1.net Devin L. Ganger dhunley#opentext.com Douglas J. Hunley dowling#Adobe.COM Terence S. 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McCready robert.miletich#miletich.com Robert Miletich robertj#wirehub.nl Robert Joosten Roberto.Lupi#ascu.unian.it Roberto Lupi robhudson#atdot.org Rob Hudson rossing#iname.com Eric Rossing rsteiner#visi.com Richard Steiner rufinus#mbe.ece.wisc.edu J Rufinus russell#lls.lls.com Russell Brown ry#teleport.com ryannosaurus s965#drone.ii.uib.no Trond Mjåtveit Hansen saeboe#tele.ntnu.no Asbjørn Sæbø scarblac-rt#pino.selwerd.cx Remco Gerlich scholler#fsmb.tu-darmstadt.de Christoph Ulrich Scholler scrosland#yahoo.com Simon Crosland sean#ntr.net Sean McPherson seva#null.cc.uic.edu Seva sfisk#mail.pol.net Steve Fisk shabba#csn.ul.ie Damian O'Sullivan shimpei#submm.caltech.edu Shimpei Yamashita shrdlu#pacbell.net Lynda L. True siglercm#alphamb2.phys.vt.edu Clemmitt Sigler sjkiii#crl.com Stan Kalisch III sla#calvin.datapartner.no Stig Even Larsen snevel#sonic.net Simeon Nevel SRANGA#inf.com Rangarathnam.S ssehbai#smarty.smart.net Faisal Shaheen ssharkey#lanshark.com Scott Sharkey ssm#rlyeh.net Stig Sandbeck Mathisen staehle#netvalue.net Bill Staehle stefan.roth#gtri.gatech.edu STEFAN P ROTH stefano#zool.su.se Stefano Ghirlanda <stefano@zool.su.se> Stephen.Oxley#its.monash.edu.au Stephen Oxley stjs_ss#troi.cc.rochester.edu Scott Jennings Stuart.Eichert.wh99#wharton.upenn.edu Stuart Eichert suhlmann#gmx.de Stephan Uhlmann syeates#cs.waikato.ac.nz stuart yeates sylvan#cyberhighway.net Sylvan Butler szalkai#2fkft.com Akos Szalkai tc#Mcs.Net Thomas Cuny tech33#wans.net Chris Campbell terry#boon.u-net.com Terry Boon tgm#netcom.com Thomas G. McWilliams tgwilt#suite224.net Tom Gwilt thom#idar.com Thomas G. McVeigh thomasc#rl.af.mil Carl Thomas thorfinn#netizen.com.au David Goh TI95NEUK#de.ibm.com Andreas Neukoetter tibor#lib.uaa.alaska.edu Michael Tibor tim.kynerd#iname.com Tim Kynerd Tomi.Ollila#tfi.net Tomi Ollila Toni.Tiainen#DataFellows.com Toni Tiainen trevort#inorth.on.ca Trevor Tymchuk ts#UWasa.Fi Timo Salmi tywon#mulder.fdf.net Tywon umbrook0#cc.UManitoba.CA Steven Brooks unistein#isbe.ch Peter Steiner vinces#xs4all.nl Vincent Schonau volz#epix.net Joseph S. Volz vonbrand#inf.utfsm.cl Horst H. von Brand wingate#worldpath.net John Wingate wish#dumain.demon.co.uk Bill Hay wiz#verinet.com Mike Craig WmHBlair#verio.com William H. Blair wrmattil#ix.netcom.com William R. Mattil YoungmanJ#logica.com Youngman, James ziembor#neuromancer.ceu.edu.pl Ziemek Borowski Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ alexis#aa.net Alexis Manning dougob#the-spa.com D. O'Brien geisler#chad.ece.nwu.edu Jonathan Geisler jason#gaydeceiver.com Jason Steiner kopetsbj#cs.purdue.edu Brett J. Kopetsky myers#umich.edu Eric Myers naddy#mips.rhein-neckar.de Christian Weisgerber olav#viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar Rice_Krispy#my-dejanews.com Daniel Rock stainles#bga.com Dwight Brown tobez#plab.ku.dk Anton Berezin voland#plab.ku.dk Vadim Belman yan#storm.ca Yves Bellefeuille Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ chris#kzim.com Christopher Robin Zimmerman chriseb#nortelnetworks.com Chris Ebenezer Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ed#twin-cities.com ed bertsch ! Conflicting votes root#dgrunt.sneakernet.com Ken Braun ! Invalid address