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From: zun@falconwing.com
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:45:28 -0400 (EWT)
To: Cliff Baeseman <vbman@pcpros.net>
Subject: Re: Linux Desktop based on JDK 1.2

Hi Cliff,

On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Cliff Baeseman wrote:

> I do not know if anyone is interested in this yet but here goes.
> 
>    I am not happy with the GNOME or the KDE desktops so I have started
> building a desktop on top of a minimal RH 6.0 installation. I am using
> JBuilder3 on windows to code the desktop. This is working out very well
> and JBuilder already gave me 50 percent of what I needed to build the
> system. I am using pre v-2 blackdown JDK and am having a bunch of fun
> doing this.  The desktop will talk to the linux bottom end via a api
> socket server written in C++. 
> 
> Anyone else interested?

I have a couple of things you might find of interest:

1) java-desktop@vegetable.org is a not very active mailing list discussing
such issues, mainly by the developers of Echidna.

2) JOS www.jos.org is doing an operating system in Java with a desktop
compoonent.

3) to counter the speed issue, one solution would be to use gjc
(sourceware.cygnus.com) and add X or other graphic support to it.  One
person is working on a gtk binding for AWT but I feel that's the wrong way
to go.  Another library of interest is Shark which is a Java windowing
system that emulates AWT on top of X and/or native graphics drivers.  It's
available at http://www.gjt.org/pkgdoc/org/gjt/shark/index.html

This would be a good project in and of itself, straightforward but a
little challenging due to AWT being underspecified (any students looking
for a project here? =)  I think it's crucial to the adoption of Java under
Linux among the C/C++ crowd that are doing GNOME, KDE applications now.
Swing may be complex, but IMHO it's better to use than Gtk+ or Qt.

4) I've also been developing a different GUI desktop called Conch using
Swing, but working with it on and off hasn't brought too much result.  I'd
be happy to discuss the concepts with anyone who'd care to listen =)

Anyway it sounds like you stirred up a lot of interest.  Care to give more
details about your project?

. . . Sean.





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