Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:11:44 -0700 From: Alfred Huger <ah@SECURITYFOCUS.COM> Subject: New mailing list for penetration testers @SecurityFocus.com To: BUGTRAQ@SECURITYFOCUS.COM There is another mailing list starting up here at SecurityFocus.com to shore up some gaps we see via people posting questions based around penetration testing and network auditing. The penetration testing list is designed to allow people to converse about professional penetration testing and general network auditing. While lists like Vuln-Dev and Bugtraq deal with exploits and flaws in systems there are few interactive forums to discuss actual penetration testing and network auditing. As a result this area has become a difficult topic to learn about outside of print media (books etc.) Given that this is the case, this list hopes to dispel some of the confusion and allow for intelligent discourse on the topic. The list is not OS specific and will cater to discussion on all and any network able devices people wish to discuss. What is appropriate content? - Discussion based around commercial or free tools used in penetration testing and network auditing. This dicussion is meant to be instructive and have value. If you dislike something, be polite about it. - Discussion of methodology concerning network auditing and penetration testing. - Product/Tool announcements. Posts announcing *new* or updated products may be made to the list as long as they are relavent to the list. These announcements can only be *one* paragraph in length and must be factual no nonsense posts ie. free of marketing hype. Free tools may make announcements up to one page in length. Again, factual rant free posts are required. - Basic questions surrounding the above topics. What is inappropriate content? - Ethics or morality disussions. This list will facilitate discussions not suited for people who do not support full disclosure. It's goal is to provide information to people who are professionals or whose job demands they must, break into computers. If you have a moral or ethical dillema around this topic please do not sign up to the list. - Flames and generally unpolite conduct. This list caters to professionals. Keep your questions to the point and polite. How do I subscribe? - Send an e-mail message to listserv@securityfocus.com with a message body of: SUBSCRIBE PEN-TEST Lastname, Firstname You will receive a confirmation request message to which you will have to answer. Alfred Huger VP of Engineering SecurityFocus.com