From: Bill Sommerfeld <sommerfeld@east.sun.com> To: cool@lwn.net Subject: Re: what's your deadline on the ssh thing? Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:07:20 -0500 The IETF as a whole does not take a position on the validity of intellectual property claims -- see RFC2026, "The Internet Standards Process", (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2026.txt) and the IETF's page of IPR notices (http://www.ietf.org/ipr.html). The IETF has dozens of working groups. One of them is the Secure Shell (SECSH) working group, which was chartered in 1997 or so to define an internet standard based on Tatu Ylonen's SSH. [As an aside, the working group wasn't given the "SSH" abbreviation because, at the time, the IETF already had a "Site Security Handbook" working group which had grabbed the SSH abbreviation). Had the other SSH not been there, the working group would have been abbreviated as "SSH".] The original working group chair stepped down over the summer, and I was asked to take over as working group chair at that time. Since then the working group has been making steady progress and we appeared to be very close to getting a set of documents ready to hand up to the IESG for review -- we were in the middle of the working group's "Last Call" period on the core Secure Shell protocol documents when I first received word of the dispute. In practice, IETF working groups tend to "engineer around" troublesome IPR issues; for instance, the SSH version 2 protocol was changed to use DSS instead of RSA to avoid the (now expired) RSA patent. I can't predict how the working group will react to this -- I only know that it will slow things down. Needless to say, added delay in the standards process does not help the end user. Bill Sommerfeld Working Group Chair, IETF Secure Shell working group.