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From: "Emile van Sebille" <emile@fcfw.fenx.com>
To: Dr.Dobb's.Python-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com
Subject: Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Jul 16)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:47:13 -0500 (CDT)
Pythonic Quote of the Week: In a post titled 'An Unspeakable Act',
Daniel Klein does what people do on Usenet and tells us of a Python
vs Java discussion he entered into on another group:
This person says that dynamically typed languages produce
bug-ridden programs and that there are no reliable large
applications (especially network apps) written in Python
and that it is just used for small to medium scripting.
I know better but I don't have any proof.
... Prompting James Logajan to remind us of the subtle details of usenet life outside of c.l.py
Look, you have got off on the wrong foot. You are trying
to think logically. That gives the other person a leg up
on you. (But you admit that you know better without proof,
so you aren't totally out-matched.)
Follow the discussion starting at
http://groups.google.com/groups?th=42a29c22b0f4873a,14&start=0&ic=1
Guido announces Python 2.1.1c1 - a bugfix release candidate for
Python 2.1. One fixed "bug" deserves special attention: like
Python 2.0.1, Python 2.1.1 is GPL-compatible! Expect the final
release next week.
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:mailman.995047446.5368.clpa-moderators@python.org
Andrew M Kuchling explains how to become one of the people who
develop Python. If you've wondered how Python evolves or would
like to contribute, this is a good starting point.
http://www.amk.ca/python/writing/python-dev.html
Marc-André Lemburg announces updated versions of his
mxCommercial product (mxODBC), mxBase extensions, and a set of
mxExperimental python extensions each destined for inclusion in
one of the former two.
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:mailman.995047446.5366.clpa-moderators@python.org
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:mailman.995047446.5365.clpa-moderators@python.org
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:mailman.995047446.5367.clpa-moderators@python.org
Robin Dunn releases version 2.3.1 of wxPython, a blending of
Python and the wxWindows gui toolkit.
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:mailman.995047446.5364.clpa-moderators@python.org
Michael Stroeder introduces PyWebLib 1.0.2 - a set of modules for
web programming tasks.
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:mailman.994764060.20463.clpa-moderators@python.org
Steven Knight launches SCons, a make replacement written in Python.
SCons is currently in active development, with the goal of an alpha
release some time later this year. The current developers are
actively recruiting anyone else who would like to contribute.
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:mailman.994903681.24367.clpa-moderators@python.org
In the "Why don't you remember Zager and Evans" department: Roman
Suzi wonders what programs written to survive the ages would look
like.
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:mailman.994509911.11785.python-list@python.org
Thomas Heller posts a recipe that shows how to set up things to
launch the debugger automatically in Python 2.1
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/65287
Marc-André Lemburg introduces a PEP that proposes to use the PEP
244 statement "directive" to make the encoding used in Unicode
string literals u"..." (and their raw counterparts ur"...")
definable on a per source file basis.
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:mailman.995062883.31329.python-list@python.org
Mark Poinot provides a report on the Libre Software Meeting Python
Track held earlier this month in Bordeaux.
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:mailman.994840578.17876.python-list@python.org
Terry Reedy provides a good summary of how language changes that
break existing code impact the community
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:wuN27.13377$Y6.4240331@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com
... prompting Guido to reconsider plans to change the behavior of
integer division
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:cplmlvh6dx.fsf@cj20424-a.reston1.va.home.com
Carsten Gaebler discovers an inconsistency in how readline and
readlines react to an empty file, with Quinn Dunkan submitting
the patch to make it right.
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:3B482C44.6E6EB163@snakefarm.org
Tim Daneliuk asks for an explanation of Python's singleton tuple
syntax.
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:3B4CA0A8.20B53230@tundraware.com
A.M. Kuchling formalizes an approach which describes a format
for a database of Python packages installed on a system in PEP
262. Could this be the start of dynamic module updates?
http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/pep-0262.html
Edward Jason Riedy provides links and discussion on fully
arbitrary precision changes in relation to Python.
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:9igdps$o1u$1@agate.berkeley.edu
For the Zope crowd: This should only sound foreign to the
uninitiated, but even if you don't zope yet... Here's a How
to set up Blark Feature Boxes FOR CMF Blark Creators.
http://www.zope.org/Members/jeffsasmor/blark_featureboxes
... and this will definitely sound foreign (except to the
martellibot)... There's a new site dedicated to Zope, but you'll
need to read it yourselves to get more information... ;)
http://www.zope.it/
....Martijn Faasen releases Formulator 1, an extensible
framework that eases the creation and validation of web forms.
http://www.zope.org/Members/faassen/Formulator
... and an update on the EuroZope meeting at LinuxTag in
Stuttgart, located part way down the page at
http://www.eurozope.org//index_html/mpNews?sNwsItem=20010709
Continuing Foreign Python sightings... Cristian Echeverria tells
of a new website: Python News in Spanish - Noticias de Python en
Español at
http://www.chevenet.com/
http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&q=msgid:9iq577$km4p5$1@ID-44371.news.dfncis.de
Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon;
egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam;
spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and
spam; spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam...
http://www.pythonline.com/spamclub/signup.shtml
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Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages:
Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional
center of Pythonia
http://www.python.org
Notice especially the master FAQ
http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html
PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the
daily python url
http://www.pythonware.com/daily
comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software. Be
sure to scan this newly-revitalized newsgroup at least weekly.
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=comp.lang.python.announce
Michael Hudson continues Andrew Kuchling's marvelous tradition
of summarizing action on the python-dev mailing list once every
other week.
http://starship.python.net/crew/mwh/summaries/
http://www.amk.ca/python/dev
The Vaults of Parnassus ambitiously collect Python resources
http://www.vex.net/~x/parnassus/
Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group
mailing lists
http://www.python.org/sigs/
The Python Software Foundation has replaced the Python Consortium
as an independent nexus of activity
http://www.python.org/psf/
Cetus does much of the same
http://www.cetus-links.de/oo_python.html
Python FAQTS
http://python.faqts.com/
Python To-Do List anticipates some of Python's future direction
http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/todo.py
Python Journal is at work on its second issue
http://www.pythonjournal.com
Links2Go is a new semi-automated link collection; it's impressive
what AI can generate
http://www.links2go.com/search?search=python
Archive probing tricks of the trade:
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=comp.lang.python&num=100
http://groups.google.com/groups?meta=site%3Dgroups%26group%3Dcomp.lang.python.*
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