From:	 "Bryan Oakley" <oakley@bardo.clearlight.com>
To:	 Dr.Dobb's.Tcl-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com
Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Aug 31)
Date:	 Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:35:25 -0500 (CDT)

Quotes-of-the-week abounded.  Among others, note
    "This is another place to spout praise of the mighty TclKit. Perfect
    for this type of cgi - bung everything in one with extensions for as
    many platforms plus a Tcl-only to back up if all fails, _and_ get a
    database to store all the XML data in. Fantastic!" -- Neil Madden

    "You will want to stir their phantasy - and manual pages rarely do."
    -- Helmut Giese

    "Perhaps the Tcl image is not populist enough to go anywhere in the
    mass market?  While technically superior in many ways, I think that
    there is a certain aura of ... je ne sais quoi...about it that limits
    its mass appeal."  -- Iain B. Findleton

    It's vote's that count, but when it comes to Expect on Windows, it's
    developers that count (or the $$$ to purchase them). -- Don Porter

    
    XML, and particularly XSL, continue to pop up in comp.lang.tcl:
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=4db48dddc47e09e4

    New package announcements:
    e4graph 1.0a4
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=a6653b3d41185409
    sgxTools
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=e7643a40e9f5b917
    ActiveTcl 8.3.3.3
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=f6a31541e001ecaf
    moodss 14.5
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=1406acb6a9e8d771

    It looks like WinCVS may be distancing itself from Tcl:
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=3e494eb0d2145dd8

    Cameron Laird started a long and interesting discussion on the tcl
    plugin, plugins in general, and alternatives to the tcl plugin. The
    discussion includes two cents thrown in by the original author of
    the tcl plugin, Jacob Levy.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?th=41c5c1779e7aee34


Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages:

    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly
    organized resource center of documents and software with
    provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software
    and update ... as you release new versions."
        http://tcl.activestate.com/resource/
    The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl
    is a good thing
        http://tcl.activestate.com/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl.
        http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/wiki/0.html
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://mini.net/tcl/969.html

    NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive
        http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/

    Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest
        http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/   

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here:
  http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html
--in principal.  In spring 2001, though,
  http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/
  http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/
are more consistently up-to-date.  A fourth possibility is                 
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl  

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

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