From: Stuart Cassoff <stwo@sympatico.ca> To: Dr.Dobb's.Tcl-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Sep 26) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:35:34 -0500 (CDT) QOTW is from a private correspondent who testifies that, "I use Tcl because no other language features so funny weekly abstracts!" I'm inspired by great words this week. "Know thyself" - Socrates "Love thyself" - Narcissus "Quit daydreaming you idiot and take the transfer" - Bus driver I can't sew without losing consciousness due to blood loss. These people, on the other hand, handle threads with a dexterity previously known only to 80+ year old cobblers - practically blind from old age, yet able to see the threads clearly as they make ripples in space-time. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=8d919f17ea29bbd3 It's too dangerous, captain! Do you want us to become like VB? TIP #61: Make TK_NO_SECURITY Run-Time Switchable http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=9e29134a33908abb Jean-Luc Fontaine red-lines with RPM's! ANNOUNCE: Tcl/Tk thread 8.4a3 rpms for Redhat 7.x http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=a70c6800ce6a9328 Andreas Otto is not one to sit idly by as MS makes .NET A new version of the 'compiler', fresh from the compiler factory. And a 'FullRewrite' to boot! http://groups.google.com/groups?start=200&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=tfc7o9.2kp.ln%40linux02.otto-net Nice letter, 'R'. Personally, I prefer the three consecutive letters after 'R'! Another Tcl success story! http://groups.google.com/groups?start=225&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=h336o9.grd.ln%40co3003889-a.carlnfd1.nsw.optushome.com.au What do you expect for nothing - rubber biscuit? Using port 0 for server socket. Unanswered question: Will it work on Macs? http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=dbba2ebb4674522c Stick that in your array and hash it. Arrays in arrays. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=214a1110fbbe4324 It's like totally rad, dude! Extreme programming. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=228e9e6b0ae90119 http://groups.google.com/groups?start=175&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=2Kaq7.6627%24p77.23314%40www.newsranger.com http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=dabf4519d5abcbe1 Stop tcl_eval! I want to get off! (no such luck) "Tongue tied & twisted just an [eval] bound misfit, I." (Further apologies to Pink Floyd) http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=268f8964d818e9ac Getting the button height right. Not as easy as it seems. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=c5473beb3918dda2 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=c7005c1966a846ba The Tracing of the Proc. (Apologies to Lewis Carroll) "Leave him here to his fate - it is getting so late!" The Tcl'er exclaimed in a fright. "We have lost half a day. Any further delay, And we sha'n't trace a Proc before night!" TIP #62: Add Support for Command Tracing http://groups.google.com/groups?start=150&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=pgpmoose.200109201210.7556%40non.non.net http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=5b5748e08b5f8c50 "Get your money for nothing and your chicks for free." - Dire Straits. Ah, life in the drug-crazed, sex-filled, scandalous world of Tcl! Oh no wait, this thread is about something else. Never mind. Dire times? http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=8d106a009a42035c lsort unique? Watch the non-unique responses accumulate! http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=cd51142d339d7f3b No goto in Tcl? Nope. A few ways to simulate it, if you really really want to. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=7ce8b152c75177e3 How to read tcl source? In the bathtub! (hard copy only, please) http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=ee2de46d83854dc5 Expect win32 scrapped? Say it ain't so. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=7540675d0752b8ae http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=7437f425e31a10db Using tcl as a preprocessor, not a foodprocessor. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=65f8e90a7f811127 I normally find statistics to be as exciting as statisticians, you may feel otherwise. Are the numbers meaningful? http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=8709d22bfefe4283 http://groups.google.com/groups?start=125&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=9oifjh%2415i0%241%40news.bbnetworks.net Euro symbol? You kwazy Europeans and your wacky money! Here in Canada, beaver pelts are still the official currency. You should see our ATMs! http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=d4f8c3e36e1f0228 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=b0ccda895d3af88c Dynamic generation of TCL code within TCL code But is it 'proc chicken {} {}' or 'proc egg {} {}' ? http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=5f6aee89df42e920 Tcl webspaces unite to form a pretty string of PURLs. TIP #54: Using PURLs to Unite the Tcl Webspace http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=88b1a59c35134463 So they loaded up the truck, and they moved to the Forge (Source, that is. Smimming pools, movie stars). Memchan moves to SourceForge! <banjo music> http://groups.google.com/groups?start=50&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=87k7zhxnyb.fsf%40bluepeak.home New Wiki categories. Check them out. Now! http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=1fbded9c6cd664ed Buggy csv from tcllib? Just a bit. Improvements already underway. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=6a7643c5f5210f8a Take a swig, pass the jug... SWIG 1.3.9 is available. Eminem eat your heart out - we've got the best wrapper! http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=pgpmoose.200109251140.6835%40non.non.net Urgh! I can't think of anything clever for this one. Getting font information. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=da7154f3dad32ca9 Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/ Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly organized resource center of documents and software with provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software and update ... as you release new versions." http://tcl.activestate.com/resource/ The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl is a good thing http://tcl.activestate.com/scripting/ The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl. http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/wiki/0.html For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..." http://mini.net/tcl/969.html NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/ Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/ Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/ Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here: http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html --in principal. In spring 2001, though, http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/ http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/ are more consistently up-to-date. A fourth possibility is http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome. To receive a new issue of this posting in e-mail each Monday, ask <claird@neosoft.com> to subscribe. Be sure to mention "Tcl-URL!". -- Dr. Dobb's Journal (http://www.ddj.com) is pleased to participate in and sponsor the "Tcl-URL!" project.