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From:	 Stuart Cassoff <stwo@sympatico.ca>
To:	 Dr.Dobb's.Tcl-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com
Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Sep 26)
Date:	 Wed, 26 Sep 2001 10:35:34 -0500 (CDT)

QOTW is from a private correspondent who testifies that, "I use
Tcl because no other language features so funny weekly abstracts!"
									     
I'm inspired by great words this week.
"Know thyself" - Socrates
"Love thyself" - Narcissus
"Quit daydreaming you idiot and take the transfer" - Bus driver


    I can't sew without losing consciousness due to blood loss.
    These people, on the other hand, handle threads with a dexterity
    previously known only to 80+ year old cobblers - practically
    blind from old age, yet able to see the threads clearly as they
    make ripples in space-time.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=8d919f17ea29bbd3
    
    It's too dangerous, captain!  Do you want us to become like VB?
    TIP #61: Make TK_NO_SECURITY Run-Time Switchable
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=9e29134a33908abb
    
    Jean-Luc Fontaine red-lines with RPM's!
    ANNOUNCE: Tcl/Tk thread 8.4a3 rpms for Redhat 7.x
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=a70c6800ce6a9328
    
    Andreas Otto is not one to sit idly by as MS makes .NET
    A new version of the 'compiler', fresh from the compiler factory.
    And a 'FullRewrite' to boot!
        http://groups.google.com/groups?start=200&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=tfc7o9.2kp.ln%40linux02.otto-net
    
    Nice letter, 'R'.  Personally, I prefer the three consecutive
    letters after 'R'!  Another Tcl success story!
        http://groups.google.com/groups?start=225&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=h336o9.grd.ln%40co3003889-a.carlnfd1.nsw.optushome.com.au
    
    What do you expect for nothing - rubber biscuit?
    Using port 0 for server socket.
    Unanswered question:  Will it work on Macs?
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=dbba2ebb4674522c
    
    Stick that in your array and hash it.
    Arrays in arrays.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=214a1110fbbe4324
    
    It's like totally rad, dude!
    Extreme programming.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=228e9e6b0ae90119
        http://groups.google.com/groups?start=175&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=2Kaq7.6627%24p77.23314%40www.newsranger.com
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=dabf4519d5abcbe1
    
    Stop tcl_eval!  I want to get off!  (no such luck)
    "Tongue tied & twisted just an [eval] bound misfit, I."
      (Further apologies to Pink Floyd)
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=268f8964d818e9ac
    
    Getting the button height right.  Not as easy as it seems.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=c5473beb3918dda2
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=c7005c1966a846ba
    
    The Tracing of the Proc.  (Apologies to Lewis Carroll)
       "Leave him here to his fate - it is getting so late!"
         The Tcl'er exclaimed in a fright.
       "We have lost half a day.  Any further delay,
         And we sha'n't trace a Proc before night!"
    TIP #62: Add Support for Command Tracing
        http://groups.google.com/groups?start=150&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=pgpmoose.200109201210.7556%40non.non.net
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=5b5748e08b5f8c50
    
    "Get your money for nothing and your chicks for free." - Dire Straits.
    Ah, life in the drug-crazed, sex-filled, scandalous world of Tcl!
    Oh no wait, this thread is about something else.  Never mind.
    Dire times?
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=8d106a009a42035c
    
    lsort unique?
    Watch the non-unique responses accumulate!
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=cd51142d339d7f3b
    
    No goto in Tcl?
    Nope.  A few ways to simulate it, if you really really want to.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=7ce8b152c75177e3
    
    How to read tcl source?  In the bathtub! (hard copy only, please)
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=ee2de46d83854dc5
    
    Expect win32 scrapped?  Say it ain't so.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=7540675d0752b8ae
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=7437f425e31a10db
    
    Using tcl as a preprocessor, not a foodprocessor.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=65f8e90a7f811127
    
    I normally find statistics to be as exciting as statisticians,
    you may feel otherwise.  Are the numbers meaningful?
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=8709d22bfefe4283
        http://groups.google.com/groups?start=125&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=9oifjh%2415i0%241%40news.bbnetworks.net
    
    Euro symbol?  You kwazy Europeans and your wacky money!
    Here in Canada, beaver pelts are still the official currency.
    You should see our ATMs!
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=d4f8c3e36e1f0228
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=b0ccda895d3af88c
    
    Dynamic generation of TCL code within TCL code
    But is it 'proc chicken {} {}' or 'proc egg {} {}' ?
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=5f6aee89df42e920
    
    Tcl webspaces unite to form a pretty string of PURLs.
    TIP #54: Using PURLs to Unite the Tcl Webspace
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=88b1a59c35134463
    
    So they loaded up the truck, and they moved to the Forge
    (Source, that is.  Smimming pools, movie stars).
    Memchan moves to SourceForge! <banjo music>
        http://groups.google.com/groups?start=50&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=87k7zhxnyb.fsf%40bluepeak.home
    
    New Wiki categories.  Check them out.  Now!
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=1fbded9c6cd664ed
    
    Buggy csv from tcllib?  Just a bit.  Improvements already underway.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=6a7643c5f5210f8a
    
    Take a swig, pass the jug...  SWIG 1.3.9 is available.  Eminem
    eat your heart out - we've got the best wrapper!
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=pgpmoose.200109251140.6835%40non.non.net
    
    Urgh!  I can't think of anything clever for this one.
    Getting font information.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=da7154f3dad32ca9
    

Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages:

    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly
    organized resource center of documents and software with
    provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software
    and update ... as you release new versions."
        http://tcl.activestate.com/resource/
    The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl
    is a good thing
        http://tcl.activestate.com/scripting/

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl.
        http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/wiki/0.html
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://mini.net/tcl/969.html

    NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive
        http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/

    Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest
        http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/   

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here:
  http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html
--in principal.  In spring 2001, though,
  http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/
  http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/
are more consistently up-to-date.  A fourth possibility is                 
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl  

Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome.

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