From: Quinn Dunkan <quinn@yak.ugcs.caltech.edu> To: Dr.Dobb's.Python-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: Dr. Dobb's Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Oct 9) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:31:18 -0500 (CDT) Here's a cool oracular python program. Impress your friends! http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=3bbaf6c9%240%24244%24edfadb0f%40dspool01.news.tele.dk Everyone knows about Zope, but there are a lot of other python HTML-writing solutions. Some people have collected links with quick overviews: http://www.paul.boddie.net/Python/web_modules.html http://webware.sf.net/Papers/Templates/ True to c.l.py tradition, a budding GPL war veers randomly off into an argument about the usage of apostrophe's: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&oe=ISO-8859-1&threadm=9pn44q%24m1r%241%40tyfon.itea.ntnu.no (Would Strunk & White have liked Python? It's simple, clear, regular...) Gerhard maintains the python category at dmoz.org. Put it in your bookmarks next to www.vex.net/parnassus! http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=mailman.1002355626.16248.python-list%40python.org dmoz.org entry: http://dmoz.org/Computers/Programming/Languages/Python/Modules/ Zope vs. PHP for SQL-oriented sites? Cameron gives an even-handed (well, it *sounds* even-handed) answer. In brief, Zope is cool but the conceptual difficulty in getting the Zope Zen (this has been a problem ever since the beginning) can make it slow going for newbies until they get everything together. Followups note that efforts are underway to fix this with more and better documentation, and that the somewhat grotty DTML template language is being superseded by Page Templates, which are desgined to work well with HTML editors and separate the "page design" from the "add dynamic doohickeys" work: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=B72B302E37066816.6331F170A093A2AF.D02BC798CFF1B3F5%40lp.airnews.net 2.2 will be coming out RSN, and those seeking details on all the spiffy (or feeping, depending on your point of view) new features are probably best served by http://www.python.org/2.2/descrintro.html ... but for those who want to see how they will fit into the main documentation (or who want to proofread it... you never know), the development docs have been updated: http://python.sourceforge.net/devel-docs/ ======================================================================== Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: Python.org's Python Language Website is the traditional center of Pythonia http://www.python.org Notice especially the master FAQ http://www.python.org/doc/FAQ.html PythonWare complements the digest you're reading with the daily python url http://www.pythonware.com/daily comp.lang.python.announce announces new Python software. Be sure to scan this newly-revitalized newsgroup at least weekly. http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=comp.lang.python.announce Michael Hudson continued Andrew Kuchling's marvelous tradition of summarizing action on the python-dev mailing list once every other week, into July 2001. Any volunteers to re-start this valuable series? http://starship.python.net/crew/mwh/summaries/ http://www.amk.ca/python/dev The Vaults of Parnassus ambitiously collect Python resources http://www.vex.net/~x/parnassus/ Much of Python's real work takes place on Special-Interest Group mailing lists http://www.python.org/sigs/ The Python Software Foundation has replaced the Python Consortium as an independent nexus of activity http://www.python.org/psf/ Cetus does much of the same http://www.cetus-links.de/oo_python.html Python FAQTS http://python.faqts.com/ The old Python "To-Do List" now lives principally in a SourceForge reincarnation. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=355470&group_id=5470&func=browse http://python.sourceforge.net/peps/pep-0042.html Python Journal is at work on its second issue http://www.pythonjournal.com Links2Go is a new semi-automated link collection; it's impressive what AI can generate http://www.links2go.com/search?search=python Archive probing tricks of the trade: http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=comp.lang.python&num=100 http://groups.google.com/groups?meta=site%3Dgroups%26group%3Dcomp.lang.python.* Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here: http://www.ddj.com/topics/pythonurl/ http://purl.org/thecliff/python/url.html (dormant) or http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Python-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.python Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome. [http://www.egroups.com/list/python-url-leads/ is hibernating. Just e-mail us ideas directly.] To receive a new issue of this posting in e-mail each Monday morning, ask <claird@neosoft.com> to subscribe. Mention "Python-URL!". -- The Python-URL! Team-- Dr. Dobb's Journal (http://www.ddj.com) is pleased to participate in and sponsor the "Python-URL!" project.