From: Arjen Markus <Arjen.Markus@wldelft.nl> To: Dr.Dobb's.Tcl-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Oct 22) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:25:46 -0500 (CDT) QOTWs: "If you have to ask the user something - it's worth saving the answer." Pat Thoyts "You can write fortran type code in any language." Jeff Mincy "No point of closing root access if then you're letting username/passwords fly in the open via FTP or telnet." Acacio Cruz My woe, last week, concerning the lack of support for statistical packages was premature: both "R" and "dataplot" are very complete packages that are freely available and have a Tcl/Tk interface. The original poster wanted a Tcl-only package though. See: <http://mini.net/tcl/statistics> Announcement of a number of packages: - Tcl/Tk 8.4a4 for Mac OSX - this makes a lot of people happy. Available via CVS http://groups.google.com/groups?th=2e12029838bdf9fa - Compiler for Tcl/Tk, version 2.2, Available at http://www.compiler-factory.com Is anyone successful porting Tk to the agenda PDA? A lively discussion regarding the issues http://groups.google.com/groups?th=d712951538f98370 stimulated a WIKI page about the OS's that Tcl runs on http://mini.net/tcl/2420.html Revival of DOS 16 applications: has Tcl really been ported to this environment? Perhaps this site helps out: http://www.nyx.net/~tpoindex/tcl.html#mstcl WebSphere may have adopted Tcl as the main scripting language, but launching programs via "exec" causes difficulties. They culminate with long command-lines. http://groups.google.com/groups?th=7ab9e29757b2bae0 The remarkable flexibility of Tcl does not go unnoted, except with the bosses of this world. Though it is possible to combine Oratcl and Perl, just for keeping him/her happy, why go not go for the one or the other? - If anything, the design will be cleaner. http://groups.google.com/groups?th=66eb610d2a242ca8 For anyone interested (and there are quite a few people out there!): http://mini.net/tcl/awk guides you from AWK to Tcl. File processing never was easier! Talking of threads? What about the executable ones, especially in Tcl/Tk? Well, good news: Tcl and Tk will both become threadable, look for version 8.3.4! http://groups.google.com/groups?th=85d40c6e64fb8f6 And this week's special item: Tcl about to become a lingua franca, as many people are realising that they want to be able to use it not only in the context of C/C++ but also other languages like Pascal and Fortran? - I, for one, sincerely hope so! http://groups.google.com/groups?th=70c106fe21a389e Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/ Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly organized resource center of documents and software with provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software and update ... as you release new versions." http://tcl.activestate.com/resource/ The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl is a good thing http://tcl.activestate.com/scripting/ The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl. http://purl.org/mini/tcl/0 For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..." http://purl.org/mini/tcl/969 NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/ Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/ Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/ Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here: http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html --in principal. In spring 2001, though, http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/ http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/ are more consistently up-to-date. A fourth possibility is http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome. To receive a new issue of this posting in e-mail each Monday, ask <claird@neosoft.com> to subscribe. Be sure to mention "Tcl-URL!". -- Dr. Dobb's Journal (http://www.ddj.com) is pleased to participate in and sponsor the "Tcl-URL!" project.