From: Laurent Duperval <lduperval@microcelli5.com> To: Dr.Dobb's.Tcl-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Jan 30) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:59:35 -0600 (CST) QOTW: "Applying computer technology is simply finding the right wrench to pound in the correct screw!" Anonymous "Scotty is as 'commercial quality' as it gets." Ashwin Baskaran "Isn't it amazing what you can get from crufty, cryptic, and inapplicable Perl code once you translate it to Tcl?" Peter Lewerin "It appeals to me for the same reasons as perl - I can quickly get something together that works, then spend some time making it better/faster/shorter." James Quinby "I don't have anything against Java - it's the best damn implementation of UCSD Pascal ever released..." Larry Smith "I personally see a lot of power in mixing technologies together." David Gravereaux "I must admit that I never understood this whole-is-more-than-sum-of-parts business. In math I learned that '+' can mean a lot of things." Harald Kirsch "Just think of C++ and it can mean anything." Larry Smith "I vehemently DON'T think of C++." Arjen Markus Should all keyboard bindings be identical to Windows CUA bindings? http://groups.google.com/groups?th=4f02de877494d8a9 The canvas is cool and powerful. But is it fast enough? Depends on how many items you plan on inserting in it: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=f68596bdb000e52a Human beings have done great things: they've been to the moon, they cured the world of a lot of diseases. But our brains are still unable to see character strings for the ASCII codes they really are. "scan" is the man to the rescue: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=b5598675a504e6f6 ActiveState ports Tcl to Itanium. http://www.ActiveState.com/Initiatives/Tcl Let's be philosophical: tcl is a nice, powerful language, that gets the job done. But it ain't sexy, it don't get no press, it don't get no respect. As such, should it be quietly buried in favour of the flash and style of, say, Java? Discuss amongst yourselves, children, while I get a drink { http://groups.google.com/groups?th=624a55a84d28de63 TIP your hats to the core team. Another TIP has been completed, which could have an effect on developers using the C API: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=8ecace9a616acb28 Mirth and the future (aka Tcl and Delphi): http://groups.google.com/groups?th=a3bd732c0aca4b9 The http module is getting beat up left and right. Follow the blow by blow right here. In this corner, and still the champion, "package require http". In that corner, the contender, TclCurl: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=3cd1dea10374ab9 http://groups.google.com/groups?th=3ef90d110f5a0552 SMTP has been around for a loooooong time. It is behind all those jokes and all that spam that fills your inbox every day. Tcl usually simplifies most tasks but seems to have a tougher time groking SMTP: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=a21db7b6fa823218 Do you long for the Good Old Days when 640K was more memory than anyone could need, a WIMP got beat up at school, Peter Norton was a god and TSR's were all the rage? Well we ain't going back to that. But tkMC might bring back memories: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=7bdce1ea190359ed Announcements: ============== TkCon 2.3: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pgpmoose.200201241415.16309%40non.non.net Stooop 4.3 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pgpmoose.200201251022.25411%40non.non.net Back To Basics FTP: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pgpmoose.200201271500.17302%40non.non.net SnackAmp 1.7.1 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pgpmoose.200201271637.18321%40non.non.net TclCurl 0.9.3 http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pgpmoose.200201282110.385%40non.non.net Whiteboard 0.93: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=e750d0a8538588a3 FreeWrap 5.1: http://groups.google.com/groups?th=c269e35a227cc004 Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/ Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly organized resource center of documents and software with provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software and update ... as you release new versions." http://www.tcl-tk.net/resource/ The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl is a good thing http://www.tcl-tk.net/scripting/ The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl. http://purl.org/mini/tcl/0 For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..." http://purl.org/mini/tcl/969 ActiveState Tools maintains a Cookbook of Tcl recipes http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/ Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/ Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/ Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here: http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html --in principal. In spring 2001, though, http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/ http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/ are more consistently up-to-date. A fourth possibility is http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome. To receive a new issue of this posting in e-mail each Monday, ask <claird@neosoft.com> to subscribe. Be sure to mention "Tcl-URL!". -- Dr. Dobb's Journal (http://www.ddj.com) is pleased to participate in and sponsor the "Tcl-URL!" project.