From: Cameron Laird <claird@neosoft.com> To: Dr.Dobb's.Tcl-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (Mar 11) Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:09:59 -0600 (CST) QOTW: "The big gain that the bytecode compiler has is the use of a (C-style) array to hold local variables; it is *much* faster to do it that way [...]" Donal K. Fellows "Just as a reminder, <http://tmml.sf.net/coredocs.html> has a TOC, index, table of keywords, and full-text search for Tcl, Tk, and tcllib." Joe English "Newbies need examples like toddlers need milk." S.C.M. News: Cash register app in Tcl? Interesting discussion about embedded systems, notably ETLinux and muLinux. Also packed decimal, Metakit and Tequila. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=6e21b3b2af7f192c&seekm=a5040f%243v9%2407%241%40news.t-online.com#link1 Tclpro debugger usage. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=5641b8db1733af29&seekm=3C86E1AA.AC9C0FA8%40rocketship1.com&frame=off Jeffrey Hobbs makes strong statements about the prospects for *.tcl.tk and the meaning of "guarantee". http://groups.google.com/groups?th=11b14af105671a0d http://groups.google.com/groups?th=175a59f50d2904d8 Does Tk's look and feel really prevent its use? Discussion *and* stories! http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=a64t09%241rc%241%40tron.sci.fi&prev=/groups%3Fnum%3D25%26hl%3Den%26group%3Dcomp.lang.tcl%26start%3D125 Continues: Users, what do you REALLY want? http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&threadm=3C8C8DD7.384C5A35%40cs.man.ac.uk&prev=/groups%3Fnum%3D25%26hl%3Den%26group%3Dcomp.lang.tcl%26start%3D0 Starts with calling Tcl_finalize - moves into threads, plus code. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=db76d75333910769&seekm=a5vb3r%24oh3%241%40news.mch.sbs.de#link1 A nominal interest in garbage collection leads to deep issues of Tcl implementation and semantics http://groups.google.com/groups?th=1ab5116783a07097 Replace xclipboard - discussion moves to i18n & Tk & selection. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=dad8efa5bd0bee16&seekm=3C882B92.8A9497CC%40ActiveState.com&frame=off Wiki 2000! http://groups.google.com/groups?start=75&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=u8fnj9bgdid0fa%40news.supernews.com Closing pipes & killing processes. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=dd33ac5e9fde0834&seekm=3C889021.3000005%40post.ch&frame=off Feather. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=ddebc51e2e623cf2&seekm=slrna8hlc1.2m9.dgp%40clover.cam.nist.gov&frame=off C++ extensions - David Gravereax has the code to do all the grunt work! http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=59359f769263b4ac&seekm=nf4i8usdtn4pgrl8en7qmunjh74aoqp7q3%404ax.com&frame=off Mingw difficulties. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=bd17ee14851ae830&seekm=3C88EDF4.3AF4D104%40nospam.com&frame=off Micro Tcl? (How many interpreters can dance on the head of a pin?) http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=9fd7752006d29b2f&seekm=d5224ea3.0203092244.1a390eb3%40posting.google.com&frame=off Releases: ActiveTcl 8.4.0.1 beta 2 Release http://groups.google.com/groups?start=25&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=3C894CAF.74E05624%40ActiveState.com TclPro 1.6.0.1 beta 2 Release http://groups.google.com/groups?start=25&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=3C89533B.9D94599A%40ActiveState.com Last week's announcement of 8.4a4 was flawed. It was incorrectly transcribed as "8.4a3", it failed to mention the "awesome new windows makefiles for VC++" [DG], and it generally underadvertised how new and MUCH improved this release is. CL apologizes for the wasted motion. The Snack Sound Toolkit v2.1.6 http://groups.google.com/groups?start=100&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=3C876C30.61A12444%40speech.kth.se moodss-15.9 http://groups.google.com/groups?start=25&hl=en&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=3C8A6AD1.69037D75%40free.fr tom-0.1 (OpenGL wrapper for Tcl/Tk) http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=ac82f1e5d8468fe1&seekm=3C8C5AF9.A2015BDC%40wldelft.nl&frame=off "Compiler" 3.2 final http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=9031479779e38c49&seekm=a62c4u%244b0%241%40linux02.otto-net&frame=off www.netpackx.com has new canvas objects and other goodies at: http://www.helihobby.com/netpackx/Tcl_Tk/tcl_tk.html http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=c03bf9bea1707ba0&seekm=db8369ce.0203091159.3320d97a%40posting.google.com&frame=off Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages: The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/ Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly organized resource center of documents and software with provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software and update ... as you release new versions." http://www.tcl-tk.net/resource/ The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl is a good thing http://www.tcl-tk.net/scripting/ The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl. http://wiki.tcl.tk/0 For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..." http://wiki.tcl.tk/969 ActiveState Tools maintains a Cookbook of Tcl recipes http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/ Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/ Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/ Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here: http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html --in principal. In spring 2001, though, http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/ http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/ are more consistently up-to-date. A fourth possibility is http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl Suggestions/corrections for next week's posting are always welcome. To receive a new issue of this posting in e-mail each Monday, ask <claird@neosoft.com> to subscribe. Be sure to mention "Tcl-URL!". -- Dr. Dobb's Journal (http://www.ddj.com) is pleased to participate in and sponsor the "Tcl-URL!" project.