From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com> To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cantab.net> Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.5.14 IDE 56 Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 08:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Martin Dalecki <dalecki@evision-ventures.com>, Padraig Brady <padraig@antefacto.com>, Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org> [ First off: any IDE-only thing that doesn't work for SCSI or other disks doesn't solve a generic problem, so the complaint that some generic tools might use it is totally invalid. ] On Tue, 7 May 2002, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: > > Linux's power is exactly that it can be used on anything from a wristwatch > to a huge server and that it is flexible about everything. You are breaking > this flexibility for no apparent reason. (I don't accept "I can't cope with > this so I remove it." as a reason, sorry). Run the 57 patch, and complain if something doesn't work. Linux's power is that we FIX stuff. That we make it the best system possible, and that we don't just whine and argue about things. > As the new IDE maintainer so far we have only seen you removing one > feature after the other in the name of cleanup, without adequate or even > any at all(!) replacements, Who cares? Have you found _anything_ that Martin removed that was at all worthwhile? I sure haven't. Guys, you have to realize that the IDE layer has eight YEARS of absolute crap in it. Seriously. It's _never_ been cleaned up before. It has stuff so distasteful that t's scary. Take it from me: it's a _lot_ easier to add cruft and crap on top of clean code. You can do it yourself if you want to. You don't need a maintainer to add barnacles. All the information that /proc/ide gave you is basically available in hdparm, and for your dear embedded system it apparently takes up less space by being in user space. So what is the problem? My vote is to remove as much as humanly possible. "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" - Albert Einstein Think about it, and really _understand_ it. Linus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/