From:	 "Cameron Laird" <claird@neosoft.com>
To:	 Dr.Dobb's.Tcl-URL.distribution@starbase.neosoft.com
Subject: Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL! - weekly Tcl news and links (May 13)
Date:	 Mon, 13 May 2002 14:43:31 -0500 (CDT)

QOTW:  "There are 23 of us. We just have a large number of aliases and like 
chatting with ourselves on usenet."  J.M. Ivler, in response to a question
about the number of Tcl users world-wide

"Yeah, the HCW docs make little sense until you've read the base RTF spec
(at least the first couple of sections).

After you've read the base RTF spec, you'll see that the tags don't make
any sense at all.  RTF, especially WINHELP-style RTF, is the most
astonishingly awful file format I have ever seen." -Joe English

		      
    Donal Fellows explains a favorite idiom for interpreter aliases.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&th=f7213c59b258727f&seekm=3CDA3DB7.E61A0016%40cs.man.ac.uk#link11

    The problems of concurrency and reentrancy:
    ===========================================
    An interesting thread covering what it is safe to do in event "proc"s,
    specifically relating to filevents, but rapidly became more general.
    Kevin Kenny has posted a wonderful article Update Considered Harmful" on
    the Wiki:
        http://mini.net/tcl/UpdateConsideredHarmful
    Thread at:
	http://groups.google.com/groups?th=603f96ab20f8ca91

    The power of the grid manager:
    ==============================
    Basic window management, that wasn't, and then was again...
	http://groups.google.com/groups?th=90e7ccdc9e191e9e

    Documentation, proof that people are never happy:
    =================================================
    The Tcl documentation is now available in original "Windows Help"
    format. This was something that many people had requested, and curiously
    many of those same people derided the shortcomings of the format once it
    was provided. Still a great job, available at:
        http://tmml.sourceforge.net/tcl-help.zip
    Thread at:
	http://groups.google.com/groups?th=aa64b758f97b379d
    Incidentally, the manual pages are available as a portable Tk
    application.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?q=hv+tkhtml+group:comp.lang.tcl*&hl=en&scoring=d&selm=jcw-C11B38.15402208052002%40news1.xs4all.nl&rnum=1  

    The standard debates on programmer population and licensing:
    ============================================================
    "I'm not dead yet"
	http://groups.google.com/groups?th=79e12542e0b61ee
	http://groups.google.com/groups?th=e52d3e9e1650b51c


    New releases:
    =============
    multixterm is really cool.
	http://groups.google.com/groups?th=57b7e001ba07e33d

    The totally wonderful moods got released twice; first to 15.14 then to
    16, we can hardly keep up...  Still all available at:
        http://jfontain.free.fr/

    e4graph was updated and is now at its final alpha release:
        http://sourceforge.net/projects/e4graph/

    pbForth (TCL, forth and Lego, woohoo) was updated:
        http://www.hempeldesigngroup.com/lego/pbForth/download.htm

    Privaria an interesting implementation of peer-to-peer networking:
        http://www.privaria.org

    BWidgets version 1.4 (part of tcllib) which has been largely stable in
    CVS for a while, was released:
        http://sourceforge.net/projects/tcllib/


Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages:

    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly
    organized resource center of documents and software with
    provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software
    and update ... as you release new versions."
        http://www.tcl-tk.net/resource/
    The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl
    is a good thing
        http://www.tcl-tk.net/scripting/      

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl.
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/969

    ActiveState Tools maintains a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
	http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive
        http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/

    Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest
        http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/   

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here:
  http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html
--in principal.  In spring 2001, though,
  http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/
  http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/
are more consistently up-to-date.  A fourth possibility is                 
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl  

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