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Linux links of the weekOpenDesk.com comes on-line. OpenDesk.com burst onto the scene with quite a bit of hype. Imagine our surprise when we found substance behind the pre-announcements. For free, they offer you secured access to your own workspace, on which you can create documents, send mail, update your calendar, keep a contact management database and more, all accessible from anywhere on the Internet as long as you have access to a browser. In addition, you can join other people's workspaces or allow them to join yours. So what's the catch? Nothing. Well, the workspace has an area below with space for an ad banner that you can't make go away. In general, though, OpenDesk.com plans on making its money off of consulting work and add-on services, so the workspace they provided is truly free. And it is all based on open source software: Apache, mod_perl, perl, mysql, Linux and SmartWorker, a web application development platform. Worth checking out. Section Editor: Jon Corbet |
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:21:30 +0530 From: Anand Srivastava <anand@aplion.stpn.soft.net> To: aokrongly@galacticmarketing.com CC: letters@lwn.net, r2online@winntmag.com Subject: Thank You Microsoft Hi Anthony, I think the problem here is that you have no idea whatsoever of Unix. The frustration would be similar if you were to give a CD to a person who had not ever seen a computer. Or may be used only the terminal based applications of the VMS type OSs. There is a huge generational gap. There are some differences between Linux and NT, those should be understood before going into Linux. I believe you should have got a Linux pre-installed box. I also expect that you were trying to install dual boot system. Linux has its root in Unix. Unix is a very cleanly designed OS. It is extremely modular, and the design is simple. This is the reason why it persists so long when all the other OSs have died and have been replaced. The simple design and modularity and experience over the last 30 years has made it a very stable and efficient OS. Linux is mostly a complete rewrite of Unix so has inherited the simplicity and modularity in design. It has got the learning that was done over the last 30 years. It has also tried to move away from the topics that have been found to be better implementable in different ways. The efficiency and stability of Linux also derives from the immense manpower that it can muster. But thats the very basic OS. Linux is the King when it comes to automation through scripts, because it has inherited the 30 years SysAdmin culture. Linux seriously lacks in User Interfaces. This has happened due to the fact that for the past twenty years, Unix has been developed by the consortium of Unix Vendors. Unix had been in a very high margin segment. Where it matters how stable and scalable an OS is. But it gets very little points on the UI. These vendors had never been interested in the desktop or the commodity market which is driven by very small margins. So making a usable UI was very far from their minds. Due to this reason there were no developments in these fields. But this problem is being rectified, and efforts are being done by various people and Companies because they see volume in the desktop market. The companies are Gateway(Amiga) and Corel, and also other Linux vendors, who have a vested interest in seeing Linux grow popular. I agree that Linux's UI is still not very good (or rather they are not very consistent). But there are reasons for that. Linux's UI effort has been just three years, while Windows has been there for the Last 15 years. But still Linux's UI is improving as a much faster rate and I would expect that it would overtake Windows UI in another two years. I guess you don't have much more time to learn linux before getting outdated ;-). But if you want to see what things are in store go to http://www.enlightenment.org , http://www.gnome.org , http://www.kde.org , http://www.gnustep.org . These are the sites that are spearheading the development of the Linux GUI. You could be pardoned for thinking that having four GUIs would not give a consistent outlook. But this is the GNU (new :-)) way of working. You start with thoroughly incompatible designs then the market decides which feature of each is good then you incorporate good things of each merge them and make a new one or make all of the compatible so that they start looking consistent in each others domains. If somebody refuses to merge, it gets thrown out. Now lets look at NT. You think that its new technology, but when you dig deep into it you will see aspects of VMS, because thats what the original designers where familiar with. But that doesn't make it bad. Its good that the experience was taken to build a new thing. Then there is the aspect of MicroKernel. MicroKernels are known to be very modular, but pay the price of that modularity with efficiency. The only OS that tries to avoid this penalty by some genuine (and very complex) ideas is HURD. All the others just collocate the servers with the microkernel. This brings you back to square one. The robustness is gone. Because the User space OS modules are actually running in the kernel space. NT goes further than that it allows the drivers into the kernel space. Here I am just talking of NT as the kernel not as a GUI. As a GUI I said that its good having a full 15 years of Experience. But NT as a kernel is not good enough, its extremely new, and has made too many bad compromises, I believe collocating the graphics subsystem was another bad move. Too much of the code runs in the kernel space. The whole point of microkernel architecture was to reduce the amount of code that runs in the kernel space, so that it would be more stable. NT is still a very new technology and will take a lot more time to mature, and the way it is expanding its code base, it may take forever. NT still has a big lead in Applications, but thats because it has been the monopoly for the past 10years. That will change in the next couple of years. Actually as far as software engineers are considered they would be much more comfortable with Linux. At least for me and most engineers in my company, NT doesn't become usable unless we install Cygnus utilities which provide Unix utilities on NT. The one thing I hate about NT is that it tries to shield me from any problems that might arise. I had a problem with my disk which I only found out when I installed Linux on it. NT would not show that it was failing to write to the disk sometimes. It puts up artificial barriers, because the designers never thought that those things could be done. Lately it has been trying to learn from Unix, and you can see all sorts of scriptable text only programs. But the whole philosophy is restrictive. By far the biggest lead of NT is in the area of GUI based rapid application development environments. Linux has got very few and very basic ones because there had been no graphical environments on Linux, but I suppose that won't take more than a couple of years when software companies start porting them onto Linux. Free ones will only be available some three years later, that too I am little skeptic, but maybe something like mozilla (I love emacs, but I think it will be too slow if it did all that) might come to encompass everything. I hope this will put things into context. -anand | ||
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:11:15 -0200 (EDT) From: Augusto Campos <brain@matrix.com.br> To: letters@lwn.net Subject: reviews - technical books dear LWN people: I have just uploaded some linux book reviews. Reviewed titles include: "Apache - The definitive guide", "MySQL & mSQL", "Tcl/Tk in a Nutshell", "Learning Python" and "HTML - The definitive guide" - all from O'Reilly, which kindly sent us the books. Linux in Brazil published the reviews in portuguese only, but you can always rely on Babelfish to translate it (kind of) to other languages. All these books are important for anyone trying to do serious jobs with linux & the web, and the lack of foreign alternatives make O'Reilly's books some kind of international best sellers. Ah, the URL! Start at http://www.linux.trix.net/livros_adg.htm and keep clicking on to the other books Thank you for your time and attention Augusto Campos -- Augusto Cesar Campos - brain@matrix.com.br, augusto@tre-sc.gov.br A fe' remove montanhas, mas eu prefiro dinamite. | ||
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